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Homage to Catalonia and The Spanish Civil War
The History of Europe from 1715 ^ | November, 1988 | Andrew Weiss

Posted on 05/27/2003 5:09:26 PM PDT by William McKinley

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1 posted on 05/27/2003 5:09:26 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
What a bizzare coincidence, I just finished reading this book earlier today. Orwell's description of the street "fighting" in Barcelona between the Civil Guard and Anarchists/POUM was really interesting. It shows how ideology and small scale stakes get get in between people with similar goals and divide them.

The struggle of the Popular Front government reminds me of the struggle the Democratic Party is starting have. All the divergent interest groups are tearing apart potential Democrat candidates for silly reasons. NOW, the enviromentalists, reperation seekers and different ethnic groups are going to be fighting each other as Bush waltzes to a victory in 2004.

2 posted on 05/27/2003 5:13:47 PM PDT by ChicagoRepublican
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To: William McKinley
Barcelona, 1936, from Homage to Catalonia, by George Orwell.
This was in late December 1936, less than seven months ago as I write, and yet it is a period that has already receded into enormous distance. Later events have obliterated it much more completely than they have obliterated 1935, or 1905, for that matter. I had come to Spain with some notion of writing newspaper articles, but I had joined the militia almost immediately, because at that time and in that atmosphere it seemed the only conceivable thing to do. The Anarchists were still in virtual control of Catalonia and the revolution was still in full swing. To anyone who had been there since the beginning it probably seemed even in December or January that the revolutionary period was ending; but when one came straight from England the aspect of Barcelona was something startling and overwhelming. It was the first time that I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle. Practically every building of any size had been seized by the workers and was draped with red flags ow with the red and black flag of the Anarchists; every wall was scrawled with the hammer and sickle and with the initials of the revolutionary parties; almost every church had been gutted and its images burnt. Churches here and there were being systematically demolished by gangs of workman. Every shop and cafe had an inscription saying that it had been collectivised; even the bootblacks had been collectivized and their boxes painted red and black. Waiters and shop-walkers looked you in the face and treated you as an equal. Servile and even ceremonial forms of speech had temporarily disappeared. Nobody said 'Sen~or' or 'Don' ort even 'Usted'; everyone called everyone else 'Comrade' or 'Thou', and said 'Salud!' instead of 'Buenos dias'. Tipping had been forbidden by law since the time of Primo de Rivera; almost my first experience was receiving a lecture from a hotel manager for trying to tip a lift-boy. There were no private motor-cars, they had all been commandeered, and the trams and taxis and much of the other transport were painted red and black. The revolutionary posters were everywhere, flaming from the walls in clean reds and blues that made the few remaining advertisements look like daubs of mud. Down the Ramblas, the wide central artery of the town where crowds of people streamed constantly to and fro, the loud-speakers were bellowing revolutionary songs all day and far into the night. And it was the aspect of the crowds that was the queerest thing of all. In outward appearance it was a town in which the wealthy classes had practically ceased to exist. Except for a small number of women and foreigners there were no 'well-dressed' people at all. Practically everyone wore rough working-class clothes, or blue overalls or some variant of militia uniform. All this was queer and moving. There was much in this that I did not understand, in some ways I did not not even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth fighting for. Also, I believed that things were as they appeared, that this was really a workers' State and that the entire bourgeoisie had either fled, been killed or voluntarily come over to the workers' side; I did not realise that great numbers of well-to-do bourgeois were simply lying low and disguising themselves as proletarians for the time being.
"There was much in this that I did not understand, in some ways I did not not even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth fighting for." For all of Orwell's brilliance, he was capable of mind-bending blindness.
Together with all this there was something of the evil atmosphere of war. The town had a gaunt untidy look, roads and buildings were in poor repair, the streets at night were dimly lit for fear of air-raids, the shops were mostly shabby and half-empty. Meat was scarce and milk practically unobtainable, there was a shortage of coal, sugar and petrol, and a really serious shortage of bread. Even at this period the bread-queues were often hundreds of yards long. Yet so far as one could judge the people were contented and hopeful. There was no unemployment, and the price of living was still extremely low; you saw very few conspicuously destitute people, and no beggars except the gypsies. #Above all, there was a belief in the revolution and the future, a feeling of having suddenly emerged into an era of equality and freedom. Human beings were trying to behave as human beings and not as cogs in the capitalist machine. In the barbers' shops were Anarchist notices (the barbers were mostly Anarchists) solemnly explaining that barbers were no longer slaves. In the streets were coloured posters appealing to prostitutes to stop being prostitutes. To anyone from the hard-boiled, sneering civilization of the English-speaking races there was something rather pathetic in the literalness with which these idealistic Spaniards took the hackneyed phrase of revolution. At that time revolutionary ballads of the naivest kind, all about the proletarian brotherhood and the wickedness of Mussolini, were being sold on the streets for a few centimes each. I have often seen an illiterate militiaman buy one of these ballads, laboriously spell out the words, and then, when he had got the hang of it, begin singing it to an appropriate tune.
Some read these passages by Orwell, and don't realize that this was the leftist dream realized. This was as good as it gets.

And it wasn't that good.

3 posted on 05/27/2003 5:15:52 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley; PJ-Comix
And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead...

Seriously, I recently read Homage to Catalonia as it was on P.J. Comix's Freeper reading list a few months back. We discussed the book on this thread.

Interesting stuff thought all that alphabet soup (acronyms of all the various factions) was very hard to keep up with. My head was spinning. However, fascinating account of what it was like in static trench warfare, something that the German blitzkrieg was about to do away with forever.

Speaking of the Freeper reading club, we are supposed to start discussion tonight of Babbitt, a Sinclair Lewis book.

4 posted on 05/27/2003 5:18:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 264 (-26))
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To: William McKinley
I suppose if you know anything about anarchists and Communists, you will know that they are not very nice people. The first thing they did on taking power was to start shooting priests and nuns and other innocent people.

On the whole, Franco was more honorable, and less murderous, than his opponents. Moreover, once he won power he succeeded in keeping Spain out of the war. Unlike Mussolini, he managed to keep Hitler at arm's length.

He has been greatly vilified by the leftists who wrote most of the histories of the 20th century but, on the whole, he was a good man, much like Pinochet in Chile. He did what had to be done, but he didn't torture and kill millions of innocent people for the sake of killing, as did Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. The fate of Spain would have been far grimmer had the Stalinists won.
5 posted on 05/27/2003 5:21:14 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I do :-) And you are very correct.

You are right about how slanted most 'history' writing is, but I have found the writings on the Spanish Civil War to be particularly slanted, and surprisingly sparse.

6 posted on 05/27/2003 5:31:41 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
This is a nice summary of the competing factions and interests involved in that war. When I was in college I chose The Spanish Civil War as a research paper topic because my mother had been caught there when it started and I wanted to know more about who the actual opponents were.

It was a terrible project because it was impossible to find source material that offered much insight at all. The only consolation was the professor couldn't have had a clue either. I really enjoyed typing as one foot note reference: Personal conversation with a witness.That was pretty cool!

My mother had to flee over the Pyrenees and be interned in Paris for some weeks before she could get back to America. She was just telling me today, coincidentally, as we were talking about leftists not liking to be labelled as 'liberals' , that the authorities in Spain stamped passports: "anti-fascisti" not communist.
7 posted on 05/27/2003 5:34:19 PM PDT by maica (Don't believe everything you read in the papers- Jayson Blair)
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To: William McKinley
I would not have read this book but for P-J Comix and the Freeper reading club. I thought it enlightening but was too shy to jump in to the discussion.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 5:35:15 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: SamAdams76
Babbitt discussion is HERE. Sorry for the delay today but Broward County had a DELUGE of about 10 inches of rain and I couldn't get back home until a little while ago. I bet today's rainstorm here makes the national news.
9 posted on 05/27/2003 5:38:15 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure out the Joke First)
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To: PJ-Comix
Okay, I'll bounce over there. I just checked southern Florida on one of my weather sites. You guys got hammered! Hopefully everything at your house is okay.

10 posted on 05/27/2003 5:43:16 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 264 (-26))
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To: William McKinley
I agree that Homage to Catalonia is a good book on the Civil War. It was the beginning of Orwell's disillusionment with the left.

While my Aunt was in Avila visiting the haunts of St. Teresa some years ago, she happened to fall down and break an arm. While recovering, she met Doña Isabella, a volunteer worker in the local hospital, who subsequently became a dear friend and occasionally would visit us in America. Doña Isabella's family suffered during the Civil War, and several of them were shot--in effect murdered because they were pious Christians.

Having a connection like that puts a human face on those atrocities.
11 posted on 05/27/2003 5:44:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: sphinx; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; curmudgeonII; roderick; Notforprophet; river rat; csvset; ...
By popular demand, another Spanish Civil War thread.

If you want on or off the Western Civilization Military History ping list, let me know.
12 posted on 05/27/2003 5:46:09 PM PDT by Sparta
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To: Sparta
I would like on that list, please.
13 posted on 05/27/2003 6:18:13 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: Sparta
Thanks for the ping.
14 posted on 05/27/2003 6:19:06 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: William McKinley
FYI, there is no subject on earth that gets the aging fairy leftists at The New York Times salivating like the Spanish Civil War.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 6:46:09 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: maica
...The Spanish Civil war is more complex than simply a battle between fascists and republicans or socialists...

The Spanish Civil War was simple. It was merely a war of personality among a group of totalitarian leftists, who had but a few rhetorical phrases to differentiate their philosophies.

They were all the same, Communist, Fascist, Nazi or Anarchist. The only difference was the leadership.

16 posted on 05/27/2003 6:56:51 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Stupid doesn't explain it but treason does.)
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To: Sparta
Thanks for the ping. Appreciate your efforts.
17 posted on 05/27/2003 7:08:12 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Cicero
On the whole, Franco was more honorable, and less murderous, than his opponents. Moreover, once he won power he succeeded in keeping Spain out of the war.

Not to mention what he did for Spain's economy. A grossly misunderestimated individual.

18 posted on 05/27/2003 7:12:19 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Sparta
I'd like on the ping list.
19 posted on 05/27/2003 7:25:25 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: Cicero
One of my Spanish friends fought, with the socialists in Spain against Franco. He was an officer in a "workers battalion" from Catalonia. He told me he lost his liberal leanings when his commanders assigned a Russian political officer to the battalion he commanded.

The Russian wanted my friend to issue a charge order against emplaced Nazi-supplied machine guns. When my friend realized that it would be pure suicide to charge the position but the Russian kept screaming at him to obey the order. He told me he drew his revolver and shot the Russian dead. From then on he said he could not stand Russian commies and finally escaped to Mexico where he joined our American company and loved capitalism.

20 posted on 05/27/2003 7:28:56 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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