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Low-cost air fares help Ireland's abortion refugees - Hotels offer abortion packages
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Posted on 05/27/2003 2:39:38 PM PDT by chance33_98

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1 posted on 05/27/2003 2:39:38 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The figures imply that approximately one out of every 25 Irish pregnancies end in murder.

That's a very favorable comparison with the USA's 1 in 5 or 1 in 6.

This means the law is working well, despite the willingness of some English miscreants to continue Cromwell's work.

2 posted on 05/27/2003 2:45:58 PM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake
Keep 'em out! Don't let them in the hotels! Let them wander the streets! It's more than they deserve!
3 posted on 05/27/2003 2:49:51 PM PDT by aiquile
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To: chance33_98
kudos to Ireland.
4 posted on 05/27/2003 2:50:11 PM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: Charlie OK
...even more so if they start cracking down on these people, um, I mean sub-humans...
5 posted on 05/27/2003 2:51:51 PM PDT by aiquile
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To: chance33_98
I'm speechless.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 2:53:26 PM PDT by luckodeirish (Go Hillary, Go! As in away!)
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To: aiquile
"Keep 'em out! Don't let them in the hotels! Let them wander the streets! It's more than they deserve!"

That's cruel. These women need compassion and an alternative to having their babies killed. My niece lost her twin babies to miscarriage last week. They were about 14 weeks along in development. The family was permitted in to view them and pay respects. They were tiny and

7 posted on 05/27/2003 2:57:51 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: aiquile
Sorry - I hit the 'post' button to early! LOL!

They were tiny and perfect. Still developing, but all the fingers and toes were there, etc. I wish these women knew what they were aborting.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 2:59:34 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: aiquile
even more so if they start cracking down on these people, um, I mean sub-humans..."

Why would you say such a thing? They are making the wrong choice by aborting their babies. They will live with the awful knowledge of what they have done for the rest of their lives. But they are not monsters. They panic and take the first and, initially, easiest route. It's too bad a service is not offered to help them carry their babies to term. In fact, there probably ARE programs like that there. The volunteer who puts women up for the night so they can have an abortion could just as easily give a home to a pregnant girl until her baby is born.

9 posted on 05/27/2003 3:17:32 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: chance33_98
Here is a recent email I sent to W.

Dear President Bush, With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)

I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well

I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.

But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.

I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.

Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.

Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.
10 posted on 05/28/2003 12:23:13 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: wideawake
Here is a recent email I sent to W.

Dear President Bush, With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)

I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well

I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.

But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.

I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.

Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.

Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.
11 posted on 05/28/2003 12:23:34 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: wideawake
It is not necessarily the law which is making the abortion rate low. It could be, I suspect it is, an overall culture which accepts and supports women, pregnancy, and children.

There are two parts to the abortion quagmire. One side of it is looking at WHY so many choose abortion. Cultural attitudes have a lot to do with how women feel about giving birth, particularly in difficult situations such as poverty, and out of wedlock situations.

12 posted on 05/28/2003 12:24:53 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: sneakers
Sorry, I was being harsh...
I read these articles written by pro-abortion people and they do seem really inhumane. But I guess most people who get abortions aren't really like that.

You're right, these people do need help. I just think there need to be more preventive measures than the liberal media tolerates now...
13 posted on 05/28/2003 12:48:55 PM PDT by aiquile
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Hi aiquile:

I'm sorry too. I thought you might be a DU'er here to start trouble so I pounced. I really do feel sorry for those girls though. It's sad that they can't seem to see other alternatives.
14 posted on 05/28/2003 2:36:11 PM PDT by sneakers
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Have sex = you might get prego. Duh. Why parents cannot teach kids this is beyond me. Why teens are not taught cause-and-effect by their parents is even further beyond my grasp. Death to permissive parenting.
15 posted on 05/31/2003 10:44:32 AM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: chance33_98
I found this article about 'viability' interesting - from a Catholic point of view. I'm not Catholic but I think this article is right-on!

Any lawmaker today who supports protecting babies’ lives only after viability is still living in the middle ages, in pre-scientific times.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 1:19:55 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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They will live with the awful knowledge of what they have done for the rest of their lives. But they are not monsters

Oh come now. How can you credibly say that? Perhaps the woman who does it once and learns from it never to do it again, but what about the majority of repeat offenders? Am I to feel sorry for people who routinely cause their own misery, unwilling to make the effort to change?

18 posted on 08/11/2003 1:22:06 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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