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Sharon, Trusting Bush
The New York Times ^ | 05/27/03 | William Safire

Posted on 05/26/2003 8:24:28 PM PDT by Pokey78

HARPERS FERRY, W.Va.

In the midst of yesterday's stormy six-hour meeting of Israel's cabinet, assembled to reluctantly affirm or angrily reject Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's decision to accede to White House pressure to sign on to a lopsided "road map," a beeper went off in the pocket of an aide.

A message was passed to Sharon: in anticipation that his trust-Bush argument would prevail, the stock market in Tel Aviv had rocketed up nearly 7 percent (equivalent to a 600-point rise in our Dow Jones industrial average).

The former general, who had been relying on his defense minister, Shaul Mofaz, to assuage the cabinet's security concerns, promptly launched a second front: "Hope is important," Sharon (in a Sunday midnight telephone interview) recalls saying. "Cuts in the budget alone won't help us. What we need is, first, quiet, and the start of the political process."

That may have made the difference. Although 11 members voted no or abstained, 12 were willing to gamble on Sharon's trust in Bush. "It was not an easy meeting," he says. "I decided not to postpone until we could be sure of the vote, but to take the risk because Israel must not be looked upon as an obstacle to the search for peace. What President Bush said the other day affected me — that he was fully committed for the security of the state of Israel. Maybe now there is a possibility to move forward."

As the vote showed, hard-liners are worried about "Arik": He had insisted on "quiet" — an end to terror attacks — before negotiating, but then changed that to "100 percent effort" by new Palestinian leaders. Sharon had also insisted on evidence beforehand of a campaign to disarm and pacify Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but he was willing to hold private talks during a spate of suicide bombings. Sharon had spurned negotiation as long as Palestinians asserted claims to return en masse to Israel, but even as they kept putting forward that non-starter, he met with the new prime minister, Mahmoud Abbas.

"I discussed security with Abu Mazen a week ago. I offered him this: if they can't gain control of all the areas, take responsibility for just a section of the front, and we will not be acting in that area. But he was bothered only by the road map.

"I'll see him again during the next few days and we'll continue to talk on how to act against terror. That's the important thing in the performance-based plan. That's the condition for progress between and within the phases. That Arafat controls most of the armed forces is a problem."

Sharon's critics point to the road map itself, drawn up mainly by European and U.N. Arabists and swallowed by our State Department.

"Fourteen points we brought to the attention of the White House will be implemented together with the road map," Sharon says in defense of his approval. "The U.S. said these are real concerns that will be addressed `fully and seriously.' We attached those 14 points to our government's resolution, and that provided us with a certain feeling of security. That, and the friendship and deep strategic cooperation that exists between our two countries."

That's like a side letter to an agreement, which the Palestinians and Europeans brush off (though President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points was the basis of a peace conference ending World War I). Sharon would add a 15th objection: "the removal of references to U.N. resolutions other than 242 and 338, and the Beirut conference. We cannot live with Arab League resolutions."

Especially sticky is the claim of refugees to land fled from a half-century ago, which Arabs call a "right of return." Palestinians want to kick hundreds of thousands of Jewish "settlers" out of a future Palestine while inserting an even greater number of Muslims into Israel. Jews find that a deal-breaker.

Bush may include a summit meeting with Abbas and Sharon (not in Egypt) if the Palestinian shows a willingness and ability to confront Arab terrorists. Media and European pressure is on Bush to lean on Israel to trade security for the appearance of peace.

"I am willing to go far for a durable peace," said the Israeli leader last night, "but I will make no compromise on security. We are a very small country whose people are prepared to defend themselves by themselves. My historical responsibility is to preserve that capability."


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To: FreeReign
So we reward them with a state?
41 posted on 05/26/2003 10:04:05 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: MatthewViti
Execellent post and very well documented!
42 posted on 05/26/2003 10:04:41 PM PDT by travelnurse
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To: MatthewViti
No I haven't and who are you to go around labeling people? It is you who have no faith. You act as though God has no hand in this, even after seeing what has happened during the past year and a half.

Just because you have no faith doesn't give you the right to go around accusing others of your weakness.

Don't bother addressing me again. I have no time for people like you.

43 posted on 05/26/2003 10:04:43 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: MatthewViti
So we reward them with a state?

Who -- them?

44 posted on 05/26/2003 10:05:22 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: McGavin999
My faith is in God, not President Bush in this matter. You seem to be totally disregarding everything I've posted in this thread and twisting it around. Why is that? Is it because what I've said is the truth? Please, tell me what I've said in this thread that isn't true?
45 posted on 05/26/2003 10:11:30 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: FreeReign
the Palis.
46 posted on 05/26/2003 10:11:42 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: MatthewViti
So we reward them with a state?

The terrorists amongst Palis get rewarded with removal.

The rest of them get to live where they were born, in a seperate state.

48 posted on 05/26/2003 10:16:08 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: MatthewViti
You haven't said anything that isn't true, you've merely said things that are totally irrelevant. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Yet you quote scripture as though you are the only one who has read it.

Something has to be done, and yet you would stand aside while innocent Jews are killed every day.

You have seen a roadmap that is old and worn out presented and you instantly assume that means something. With God in charge, the map means nothing, it's the driver and the vehicle that matter.

We have watched as miracle after miracle has happened over the last year and a half, I have no reason to believe that God has changed His mind on the future of Israel and suddenly He, or the US, will forsake it. I have no reason to believe that George W. Bush, who has proven to be faithful to his word and to the Israeli people, will suddenly abandon them.

The idea that we would abandon the Jews after all we've been through lately is laughable.

49 posted on 05/26/2003 10:20:30 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

I know, you do.

Something has to be done, and yet you would stand aside while innocent Jews are killed every day.

You've got some real problems to accuse me of that, I'm one of the most pro-Israeli people in this forum. Bush's "road map" will only lead to more Jews being killed. The Palestinians want to wipe out the Jewish state of Jews. But Bush seems content to reward them with more of Israel's land. Soon, the time will come when God will say "enough" of this madness.

50 posted on 05/26/2003 10:33:11 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: MatthewViti
I know, you do.

I don't need to know, I have faith that God is in charge. I also know that Sharon would not be going along with this if it would endanger the Israeli people. I think there are honorable men in charge of both countries and we've already seen that the UN and the EU have been made to look foolish time after time after time. That tells me that there's more to this than meets the eye.

But ye of little faith go ahead and cast your doubts like a dark cloud, the rest of us will be praying for the security of Israel and doing what we can to help these two good men cut through the geordian knot.

51 posted on 05/26/2003 10:38:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
The idea that we would abandon the Jews after all we've been through lately is laughable.


Are we not abandoning Israel by forcing them to divide up the Covenant Land given to the Jews by God Himself and hand it over to terrorists, who have no intention of keeping peace with the Jews.

The Arabs have 23 states. Why doesn't GWB insist that these states absorb the refugees from 1948, from which they came from in the first place, and their descendants instead of insisting that Israel be carved up? Think about it. The Jews in Israel aren't even allowed into some of these Arab states, but yet GWB insists that Israel be carved up for them.

GWB is abandoning the Jews with this roadmap because he is forcing them out of their home, to give to terrorists. It is not the right way to go.
52 posted on 05/26/2003 10:58:29 PM PDT by travelnurse
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To: travelnurse
It is the devils work to cast doubt. Were we not told that if we had the faith, even as small as a mustard seed, we could move mountains?
53 posted on 05/26/2003 11:00:57 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
We (the US) have two vital interests in the mideast: Israel and oil. We aren't about to give-up either one of them.

I trust President Bush and I trust Prime Minister Sharon. Both men are honest warriors and both are guided by God.
54 posted on 05/26/2003 11:06:17 PM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
Thanks onyx, I feel the same way.
55 posted on 05/26/2003 11:09:46 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
"It is the devils work to cast doubt. Were we not told that if we had the faith, even as small as a mustard seed, we could move mountains?"


You are right, we can move mountains with the faith of a mustard seed. But this faith must be aligned with God's word. Going against God's word, as in the case of GWB, is no faith in God's word at all, from GWB's view, IMO, and can only bring disastrous results for the United States and Israel.

Beware of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
56 posted on 05/26/2003 11:10:33 PM PDT by travelnurse
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To: travelnurse
Ah, and God made you His spokesman. I see, you must feel so privilaged.

Well, time will tell.

57 posted on 05/26/2003 11:12:43 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: travelnurse
I've read enough of your posts to know one thing: You're a Bush hater.

Oh, you very well might be an avowed supporter of Israel, but so am I.

Unlike you, I trust both Bush and Sharon. And guess what? They trust each other. Thankfully, they're the ones in charge, not you.
58 posted on 05/26/2003 11:17:32 PM PDT by onyx
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
The roadmap, the vehicle, the driver, they're all irrelevant. All of this is nothing more than expensive theatrics at best. At worst, it will even further compromise Israel's ability to defend itself. There will be no lasting peace in Israel established by mortal man, and I never ceased to be amazed that otherwise intelligent people can't see this.

MM

59 posted on 05/26/2003 11:19:03 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: onyx
I've read enough of your posts to know one thing: You're a Bush hater.


I am not a Bush hater and I voted for him and have supported everything he has done up to forcing this road map upon Israel. Sorry, I cannot with a clear conscience, support that.

60 posted on 05/26/2003 11:23:05 PM PDT by travelnurse
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