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To: Notwithstanding
We protect minors. That is why bars have to ask people for ID before serving them - they can't just ask "are you 21?".

We have a specific law making an alcoholic beverage dealer responsible for verifying the age of their customer.
Pornographers who pay their actors must verify the ages of their employees. That is employment law.
Unless there is a specific law making a photographer responsible for verifying the age of the people he photographs, he can reasonably rely on their word.

If you don't like it, try to get a law passed.

Just what the World needs, another law governing personal behavior.

So9

15 posted on 05/24/2003 7:29:02 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Another stupid Libertarian comment, you little boys don't have a brain in your head.
29 posted on 05/24/2003 7:43:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always flexible)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Another stupid Libertarian comment, you little boys don't have a brain in your head.

I see. You believe in jailing people who do things you don't like, whether thay are illegal or not. The Constitution be damned.

So9

31 posted on 05/24/2003 7:46:50 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Prurient or sexual nudity or partial nudity in films, even when filmed on the streets, is pornography.

Minors are protected from consenting to pornography.

What part of this is unclear to you?

36 posted on 05/24/2003 8:13:33 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Servant of the Nine
Unless there is a specific law making a photographer responsible for verifying the age of the people he photographs, he can reasonably rely on their word.

There's a big difference between photographing a fully clothed young person and photographing a young person who is either partially or completely naked. The smart thing for a photographer to do, if he wants to avoid legal problems resulting from photographing a young person who is displaying any nudity, is to ask to see that young person's ID to verify their age. Relying on a person's word about their age can get you in a lot of trouble.

74 posted on 05/24/2003 1:25:11 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Pornographers who pay their actors must verify the ages of their employees. That is employment law.
Unless there is a specific law making a photographer responsible for verifying the age of the people he photographs, he can reasonably rely on their word.

If you don't like it, try to get a law passed.

There's no need for another law. The charge is that these guys filmed the girls engaging in lewd acts. That makes the filmmakers/photographers pornographers, which means they were obliged to get proof of age. Otherwise, they would be liable for breaking laws against child pornography. And so, they are.

1,223 posted on 05/27/2003 2:34:38 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Servant of the Nine
There are no laws against "public" photography. But there are when the GGW people take them into a room. It is then they must sign a model release. But how do you verify the age of kids who can get fake ID's?

And the next ?? is how did these 16 and 17 yr olds get drunk anyway????

What is all comes down to is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. The GGW crew are responsible to check to the best they can the ages. The girls themselves are responsible to not DRINK, and not appear on tape. And the PARENTS are responsible to know what it is their kids are doing and not letting under age girls go to these events.
1,320 posted on 05/27/2003 4:37:22 PM PDT by Michael121
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