[unspun]

'Of course as I understand, all things begin with "I AM," but I am not the one who said this...'

...He was heard by it, and by it I found myself to be who I am.

I have responsibility for myself. That is a world away from saying I have autonomy in and of myself.

Now God-and-me, there is autonomy.

[tpaine]

"Now God-and-me, there is autonomy."


That is like trying to knock a hammer into the breeze.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your post, unspun!

I think you and Hank might be crossing swords over the meaning of the word fallacy. I suspect that Hank is speaking to a logical fallacy whereas I took your statement to use the common meaning of the word fallacy which is “a false or mistaken idea.”

And for one to presume that he knows enough of reality by only what he determines is of some apparent but obviously incomplete and non-basic "laws of physics," is a very sad refusal of reality.

Indeed. Reality has meaning in physics.

For example, physicists are hard at work trying to account for matter. Right now, the hopes lie on the Higgs boson/field to keep the rest of the Standard Model valid. On the cosmic scale, the search for mass continues in dark matter and dark energy theories. The dark energy model might make sense but there as yet is no evidence of such in quantum mechanics.

The same scale of anomalies exists with regard to space/time. Non-locality is at issue with the violations of Bell’s Inequalities at distance. And there is no bridge for the quantum to classic, i.e. Schrodinger’s cat. (The observation paradox...) Sir Roger Penrose says we need a new kind of physics. I agree!!!

Again, I return to Einstein who famously said: Reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your post!

You brought up the phrase I AM which God gives to Moses as a "nickname" for Himself. It is a profound sentence and a most excellent way to begin meditation and worship - to enter the domain of thought where language fails.