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Cat Virus Tied to SARS (Hong Kong Travel Advisory Lifted)
NYTIMES ^
| May 23, 2003
| KEITH BRADSHER and THOMAS CRAMPTON
Posted on 05/23/2003 9:13:39 AM PDT by InShanghai
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator
To: AD from SpringBay
Now that's stooping to a new low.
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posted on
05/23/2003 10:32:24 AM PDT
by
dc-zoo
To: InShanghai
Looks like a cross between a leopard and a racoon:
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Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: InShanghai
I wonder, could the Chinese method of displaying live animals just outside the restaurant entrances have any connection to the spread of disease?
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posted on
05/23/2003 11:23:36 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
To: Dog Gone
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I suppose if a civet objected to being slaughtered and bit someone, it could transmit the virus."
Some restaurant patrons "pick" a live animal for slaughter/preparation. An infected live animal AT A RESTAURANT, exposed to the public, is asking for disaster.
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posted on
05/23/2003 11:29:32 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
To: DubyaDubyaDubya
Somebody had to say something like this.
To: dc-zoo
You know you were thinking it.
To: aristeides
You just know I'm not going to blame these poor little critters for SARS.
My money is still on Binny.
Although,they both have those big brown eyes........
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posted on
05/23/2003 6:07:32 PM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: Betty Jo; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; InShanghai; ...
Interesting paragraphs from today's Washington Post story on this subject,
Tests Indicate Animal Link for SARS : Mammals From China Market May Be Source of Human Infection :
The tests found a virus that appeared virtually identical to the SARS virus in saliva and feces of six catlike animals, known as masked palm civets. The researchers directly isolated virus from four of the animals and found pieces of genetic material from the microbe in two others. Tests also showed genetic evidence of the virus in feces of another animal, known as a raccoon dog, and an eighth animal, a Chinese ferret badger, had antibodies to the virus in its blood. None of the animals was sick.
A detailed genetic analysis of the virus isolated from the animals found it was identical to the SARS virus from human patients except that it lacked one sequence. The missing genetic material carries instructions for the production of a small protein, known as a peptide, and may have been the change that allowed the virus to jump to humans and then spread readily, Stohr said.
"The lack of this peptide may have helped the virus transmit efficiently from human to human," Stohr said. "Perhaps that missing piece of protein is just the trick, the little difference between a harmless animal virus and a human pathogen. That's a bit of speculation, but this is one hypothesis."
Masked palm civet belongs to Viverridae. Ferret badger belongs to Mustelidae. What kind of animal is a raccoon dog?
Let it be noted that domestic cats in this market tested did not show signs of infection with the virus in question.
To: aristeides
Raccoon dogs (Nyctereutes procyonoides) are canids - but omnivorous - they eat fruit as well as meat.
http://www.canids.org/SPPACCTS/raccoond.htm Civets are also omnivorous, as are ferret badgers. They are all reported to eat fruit.
Domestic cats - which apparently are not susceptible to SARS except transiently - are carnivores. They don't eat fruit.
Humans, which are susceptible to SARS, are also omnivores.
Interesting coincidence?
To: CobaltBlue
Carnivores have a shorter intestinal tract than omnivores, typically, because it takes longer to break fruit and grain down into particles that the body can use. This is one reason that cats can eat rotten meat without getting sick - it passes through too quickly to cause infection.
To: CobaltBlue
Herbivores and omnivores get Vitamin C from their diet. Carnivores make their own.
Herbivores and omnivores sweat, carnivores pant.
Herbivores and omnivores have alkaline saliva, carnivores have acid saliva, and their stomach acid is 20 times stronger than that of herbivores and omnivores.
Many more differences, these are just the most obvious.
To: CobaltBlue
Interesting observation. Pigs, of course, are omnivores.
To: aristeides; Judith Anne; riri; blam; Dog Gone
Hmmm....peptides......Dr.Don Wiley.....
One of the dead microbiologists.
http://www.hhmi.org/communic/bulletin/oct95/wiley.htm "By providing a precise picture of MHC-peptide binding,he has made the rational design of specific molecules for antiviral vaccines a reality."
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posted on
05/24/2003 8:49:00 AM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: Betty Jo
I wonder if there's a way to find out whether any students of Dr. Wiley's are now working in China.
To: Betty Jo
Peptides are the building blocks of proteins. Two amino or more amino acids linked together are peptides, and proteins are made of one or more polypeptides chains.
All living beings are composed largely of peptides, including immune cells, and viruses.
To: CobaltBlue; aristeides; riri; Judith Anne; blam; Dog Gone; Allan; Fred Mertz; CathyRyan
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posted on
05/24/2003 9:28:54 AM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: aristeides
You ask if any of Don Wileys students are working in China?
Maybe the question should be "Are the ideas of Don Wiley in the hands and heads of Bin Ladens mad scientists?"
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posted on
05/24/2003 9:33:17 AM PDT
by
Betty Jo
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