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Hitler’s Control-The lessons of Nazi history
National Review ^ | 5-23-03 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 05/23/2003 6:02:42 AM PDT by SJackson

This week's CBS miniseries Hitler: The Rise of Evil tries to explain the conditions that enabled a manifestly evil and abnormal individual to gain total power and to commit mass murder. The CBS series looks at some of the people whose flawed decisions paved the way for Hitler's psychopathic dictatorship: Hitler's mother who refused to recognize that her child was extremely disturbed and anti-social; the judge who gave Hitler a ludicrously short prison sentence after he committed high treason at the Beer Hall Putsch; President Hindenburg and the Reichstag delegates who (except for the Social Democrats) who acceded to Hitler's dictatorial Enabling Act rather than forcing a crisis (which, no matter how bad the outcome, would have been far better than Hitler being able to claim legitimate power and lead Germany toward world war).

Acquainting a new generation of television viewers with the monstrosity of Hitler is a commendable public service by CBS, for if we are serious about “;Never again,”; then we must be serious about remembering how and why Hitler was able to accomplish what he did. Political scientist R. J. Rummel, the world's foremost scholar of the mass murders of the 20th century, estimates that the Nazis killed about 21 million people, not including war casualties. With modern technology, a modern Hitler might be able to kill even more people even more rapidly.

Indeed, right now in Zimbabwe, the Robert Mugabe tyranny is perpetrating a genocide by starvation aimed at liquidating about six million people. Mugabe is great admirer of Adolf Hitler. Mugabe's number-two man (who died last year) was Chenjerai Hunzvi, the head of Mugabe's terrorist gangs, who nicknamed himself “;Hitler.”; One of the things that Robert Mugabe, “;Hitler”; Hunzvi, and Adolf Hitler all have in common is their strong and effective programs of gun control.

Simply put, if not for gun control, Hitler would not have been able to murder 21 million people. Nor would Mugabe be able to carry out his current terror program.

Writing in The Arizona Journal of International & Comparative Law Stephen Halbrook demonstrates that German Jews and other German opponents of Hitler were not destined to be helpless and passive victims. (A magazine article by Halbrook offers a shorter version of the story, along with numerous photographs. Halbrook's Arizona article is also available as a chapter in the book Death by Gun Control, published by Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.) Halbrook details how, upon assuming power, the Nazis relentlessly and ruthlessly disarmed their German opponents. The Nazis feared the Jews — many of whom were front-line veterans of World War One — so much that Jews were even disarmed of knives and old sabers.

The Nazis did not create any new firearms laws until 1938. Before then, they were able to use the Weimar Republic's gun controls to ensure that there would be no internal resistance to the Hitler regime.

In 1919, facing political and economic chaos and possible Communist revolution after Germany's defeat in the First World War, the Weimar Republic enacted the Regulation of the Council of the People's Delegates on Weapons Possession. The new law banned the civilian possession of all firearms and ammunition, and demanded their surrender “;immediately.”;

Once the political and economic situation stabilized, the Weimar Republic created a less draconian gun-control law. The law was similar to, although somewhat milder than, the gun laws currently demanded by the American gun-control lobby.

The Weimar Law on Firearms and Ammunition required a license to engage in any type of firearm business. A special license from the police was needed to either purchase or carry a firearm. The German police were granted complete discretion to deny licenses to criminals or individuals the police deemed untrustworthy. Unlimited police discretion over citizen gun acquisition is the foundation of the “;Brady II”; proposal introduced by Handgun Control, Inc., (now called the Brady Campaign) in 1994.

Under the Weimar law, no license was needed to possess a firearm in the home unless the citizen owned more than five guns of a particular type or stored more than 100 cartridges. The law's requirements were more relaxed for firearms of a “;hunting”; or “;sporting”; type. Indeed, the Weimar statute was the world's first gun law to create a formal distinction between sporting and non-sporting firearms. On the issues of home gun possession and sporting guns, the Weimar law was not as stringent as the current Massachusetts gun law, or some of modern proposals supported by American gun-control lobbyists.

Significantly, the Weimar law required the registration of most lawfully owned firearms, as do the laws of some American states. In Germany, the Weimar registration program law provided the information which the Nazis needed to disarm the Jews and others considered untrustworthy.

The Nazi disarmament campaign that began as soon as Hitler assumed power in 1933. While some genocidal governments (such as the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia) dispensed with lawmaking, the Nazi government followed the German predilection for the creation of large volumes of written rules and regulations. Yet it was not until March 1938 (the same month that Hitler annexed Austria in the Anschluss) that the Nazis created their own Weapons Law. The new law formalized what had been the policy imposed by Hitler using the Weimar Law: Jews were prohibited from any involvement in any firearm business.

On November 9, 1938, the Nazis launched the Kristallnacht, pogrom, and unarmed Jews all over Germany were attacked by government-sponsored mobs. In conjunction with Kristallnacht, the government used the administrative authority of the 1938 Weapons Law to require immediate Jewish surrender of all firearms and edged weapons, and to mandate a sentence of death or 20 years in a concentration camp for any violation.

Even after 1938, the German gun laws were not prohibitory. They simply gave the government enough information and enough discretion to ensure that victims inside Germany would not be able to fight back.

Under the Hitler regime, the Germans had created a superbly trained and very large military — the most powerful military the world had ever seen until then. Man-for-man, the Nazis had greater combat effectiveness than every other army in World War II, and were finally defeated because of the overwhelming size of the Allied armies and the immensely larger economic resources of the Allies.

Despite having an extremely powerful army, the Nazis still feared the civilian possession of firearms by hostile civilians. Events in 1943 proved that the fear was not mere paranoia. As knowledge of the death camps leaked out, determined Jews rose up in arms in Tuchin, Warsaw, Bialystok, Vilna, and elsewhere. Jews also joined partisan armies in Eastern Europe in large numbers, and amazingly, even organized escapes and revolts in the killing centers of Treblinka and Auschwitz. There are many books which recount these heroic stories of resistance. Yuri Suhl's They Fought Back (1967) is a good summary showing that hundreds of thousands of Jews did fight. The book Escape from Sobibor and the eponymous movie (1987) tell the amazing story how Russian Jewish prisoners of war organized a revolt that permanently destroyed one of the main death camps.

It took the Nazis months to destroy the Jews who rose up in the Warsaw ghetto, who at first were armed with only a few firearms that had been purchased on the black market, stolen or obtained from the Polish underground.

Halbrook contends that the history of Germany might have been changed if more of its citizens had been armed, and if the right to bear arms had been enshrined it Germany's culture and constitution. Halbrook points out that while resistance took place in many parts of occupied Europe, there was almost no resistance in Germany itself, because the Nazis had enjoyed years in which they could enforce the gun laws to ensure that no potential opponent of the regime had the means to resist.

No one can foresee with certainty which countries will succumb to genocidal dictatorship. Germany under the Weimar Republic was a democracy in a nation with a very long history of much greater tolerance for Jews than existed in France, England, or Russia, or almost anywhere else. Zimbabwe's current gun laws were created when the nation was the British colony of Rhodesia, and the authors of those laws did not know that the laws would one day be enforced by an African Hitler bent on mass extermination.

One never knows if one will need a fire extinguisher. Many people go their whole lives without needing to use a fire extinguisher, and most people never need firearms to resist genocide. But if you don't prepare to have a life-saving tool on hand during an unexpected emergency, then you and your family may not survive.

In the book Children of the Flames, Auschwitz survivor Menashe Lorinczi recounts what happened when the Soviet army liberated the camp: the Russians disarmed the SS guards. Then, two emaciated Jewish inmates, now armed with guns taken from the SS, systematically exacted their revenge on a large formation of SS men. The disarmed SS passively accepted their fate. After Lorinczi moved to Israel, he was often asked by other Israelis why the Jews had not fought back against the Germans. He replied that many Jews did fight. He then recalled the sudden change in the behavior of the Jews and the Germans at Auschwitz, once the Russian army's new “;gun control”; policy changed who had the guns there: “;And today, when I am asked that question, I tell people it doesn't matter whether you're Hungarian, Polish, Jewish, or German: If you don't have a gun, you have nothing.”;

Richard Griffiths is a doctor of psychology with research interest in gun issues. Dave Kopel is a NRO contributing editor.


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To: Kevin Curry
"The vast majority of Americans are simply not as worked up as you are.

You're right of course. Most of the people are better described as "Sheeple," perfectly willing to look the other way whenever one of their neighbors is pulled down by some wolf in official clothing. They're much like the French civilians who shrugged their shoulders and went back to tend their grapes when the Panzers rolled down the road. Later, when their daughters were seduced by the drivers of those tanks, they had second thoughts. And when their own ranks were depleted for speaking out against the actions of the German troops, they began to look the other way when the resistance fighters struck. In time, many of them actually joined the resistance.

That pattern is pretty much standard for any population suddenly (or gradually) invaded by a tyrannous regime. The American people, asleep now, would awaken when they became threatened. It isn't really a matter of hardware or training or political indoctrination. It's a matter of survival, and even the soft couch-potatos of American suburbia will fight for that. Not all of them will fight with guns, some will fight by 'losing' a registration sheet or by 'accidently' dropping a bag of sugar in a fuel tank, but they'll fight. If the enemy is wearing blue hats, it'll be easier to organize resistance, but even if a few misguided National Guard groups elect to fire on their fellow citizens, their officers will never be able to go home.

If the unthinkable should happen and America sinks into some sort of civil war, I think it will make the French Revolution look like a Sunday picnic.

101 posted on 05/25/2003 9:56:54 AM PDT by oldfart (")
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To: harpseal
Given the logistical and tactical constraints, if Hitler had been serious about conquering Britain or knocking her out of the war, I think his best bet would have been a change in government...say the Nazis keep up the pressure with bombing raids and U-Boats, while showing a credible bluff re: Sea Lion, and at the same time working the diplomach/espionage angle with fellow travelers in Britain, of which there were a not inconsiderable number.

Perhaps they could have forced Churchill's government to fall, with the possibility that the successor would be sympathetic or at least neutral....it's known that the Nazis were keenly interested in bringing back the abdicated Edward Windsor as a figurehead for a pro-Nazi British government.

A noncombatant Britain frees up more resources for the Eastern Front, and secures the Meditteranean flank. Who knows what might have happened after that.

Someone wrote a what-if novel about ten years ago set in the early sixties, in which the US had stayed out of WWII, the Nazis had defeated Russia, and there was a Cold War between the United States and Germany and it's European vassal states. Interesting premise. The book was called Fatherland, but I don't recall the author's name.
102 posted on 05/25/2003 10:39:15 AM PDT by kms61
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To: kms61
Although the Diplatic and subversion channels might have yielded results, the Third Reich could have still defeated Britain by focusing on the sector stations and the radar installations. Such a plan which was teh initial plan would have given the Luftwaffe ultimate air superiority then air supremacy. Howevert, following the first Bomber Command strike on Berlin Hitler ordered the bombing of London and that was counter productive for the Luftwaffe. When they focused on London the loss statistics changed into Britain's favor.

Had the shipyards then cranked out additional destroyers and some amphibious support ships without teh armey launching Barbarosa in May 1941 by 1942 Britain would have been out of the war with Suez taken by the Afrika Corps and Britain sucessfully invaded in late 1942. By not declaring war on America and condemning the Japanese had Pearl Harbor still happened and proposing generous terms to Churchill and Rosevelt in late 1941 to allow the British Empire to keep its possessions he could have then had sufficient forces and a secure rear to defeat the Soviet Union.

103 posted on 05/25/2003 2:27:51 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
Exactamundo. Now picture Hillary engineering a successful but messy and transparent theft, and the consequences.
104 posted on 05/25/2003 5:29:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Kevin Curry
This talk of armed insurrection, of targeting the sons and daughters of other Americans as "evil agents of the gubmint," is sheer lunancy.

Don Matthews is dead, but his spirit lives on here in a handful of wannabes.

105 posted on 05/25/2003 7:52:32 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Your statement is both ignorant and insulting. The people Kevin addressed in his post are in no way similar to the killer Matthews or in any way his "wannabes".

What is being discussed here has no bearing or relation to an individual who is so twisted in his/her thinking that he takes the opportunity for what should be a routine traffic violation and turns it into murder. What is being discussed here is simply hypothesis about what would occur in the event of either an invasion or an internal overthrow of constitutional government.

Read what's being said by the people here and what they are talking about and then take the time to learn something about them before you insult them, that's always good advise.

Just my two cents.

106 posted on 05/26/2003 9:45:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head; Roscoe; Kevin Curry
The cheerleaders for the big government agenda on FR, like roscoe & kevin, --- never give up.

They go from thread to thread with their silly asides, hoping to stir up flame wars & to disrupt discourse about what is really going on politically in this country..
-- But lets admit it, they serve an important purpose here. The infantile, repetitive nature of their whinings soon become evident to all as being nothing but basic agit-prop methods.

They have become FR 'characters', and jokes...
107 posted on 05/26/2003 11:18:48 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: Jeff Head; Kevin Curry
To see something really weird, go to kevins home page, where he quotes:

"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed. If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
- Winston Churchill


Go figure.
--- Kevin, this is exactly the point many on this thread are making..
108 posted on 05/26/2003 11:32:37 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: Jeff Head
The people Kevin addressed in his post are in no way similar to the killer Matthews or in any way his "wannabes".

Two were.

109 posted on 05/26/2003 12:24:12 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe; Jeff Head; harpseal; Admin Moderator
#84: Hitler's Control-The lessons of Nazi history ^
To: harpseal; tpaine; Jeff Head


#84 by kevin curry


The people Kevin addressed in his post are in no way similar to the killer Matthews or in any way his "wannabes".
-Jeff Head -


Two were.
-roscoe-


Roscoe, -- I'm calling your cowardly bluff.

How am I, along with either jeff or harpseal, -- "similar to the killer Matthews or in any way his "wannabes"?

110 posted on 05/26/2003 1:19:51 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: tpaine
Look in the mirror.
111 posted on 05/26/2003 1:47:48 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe; Jeff Head; harpseal
I look, - and am very happy that a roscoe is not staring back.

BTW, you seem to have gotten away again with a personal attack on either Jeff Head or harpseal as psycho killers.
Why is that? Are you special?
112 posted on 05/26/2003 2:01:17 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: tpaine
Don Matthews died committing his murder.
113 posted on 05/26/2003 2:07:00 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
So what?
114 posted on 05/26/2003 2:12:00 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: DPB101
Not "possible", actual. Communists did, briefly, take over a part of Germany.

That, combined with news out of Russia about the terror famine in the Ukraine (millions deliberately straved to death) plus the liquidation of the old Russian middle-class, had the German middle-class terrified that something similar would happen in Germany should Russian-backed Communists gain power. Thus, they would accept anybody who they thought would deal forcefully with the communist threat

115 posted on 05/26/2003 2:12:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: tpaine
His death was small consolation for the two small children left fatherless by the fanatic.
116 posted on 05/26/2003 2:14:15 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
So what?
Roscoe, -- I'm calling your cowardly bluff.
How am I, along with either jeff or harpseal, -- "similar to the killer Matthews or in any way his "wannabes"?
-- Obviously you can't answer.
Which proves that your only motive was a personal attack in order to bait one of us into a flame fest.
117 posted on 05/26/2003 2:17:07 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: Lessismore
While I used to believe in the theory that an armed populace was an effective guard against tyranny, I'm rethinking that position. It appears that modern tanks and APCs, helicopter gunships, precision weapons, body armor and small unit tactics have been quite successful in overcoming any armed resistance on the ground in Iraq. I would think that a disorganized rabble with hunting rifles would be even easier to overcome than the Iraqi armed forces.

There is a fundamental difference between an army operating on foreign soil, versus an army operating against its own people. In the former case, the civil service workers who send out the paychecks and purchase orders that keep things running are safely elsewhere, out of reach.

Notice how long it took to nail the "Beltway Snipers". Now visualize a thousand small teams engaged as serial killers of govt employees. How long before people stop coming to work? A govt without clerical workers, is a govt without supplies.

An army without ammo, fuel, food, and clothing is just a ragged mob

118 posted on 05/26/2003 2:21:40 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: tpaine
Among other things, Matthews was a delusional fanatic who hated our legal system and who contended that traffic laws he didn't like were "unconstitutional".
119 posted on 05/26/2003 2:21:48 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: harpseal
What I am saying is that it could concievably happen if the situation in this nation deteriorated.

A second civil war? Presumably between the blue states and the red states (i.e., the 2000 election map breakdown by county)?

Political grievances in and of themselves would not be sufficient spark, in my opinion. The country would have to be suffering some deep systemic problem with respect to food, power, or security as well. As long as fundamental needs are met, most people are content to drift along.

120 posted on 05/26/2003 2:29:01 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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