[For_God_and_Country]

"We have lost touch with the essence of war. Following our defeat in Vietnam we became a better nation. We were humbled, even humiliated. We asked questions about ourselves we had not asked before."

We were? The America I saw then was a fractured, wounded and economically depressed nation. I mean Im only thirty two, but I dont remember feeling a real ground swell of American pride until President Reagan was sworn in and our hostages came home. Also we were not defeated in Vietnam, those men and women who went to Vietnam and served did so with one hand tied behind their back. Had they been allowed to complete the mission with vigor and not with nonsensical rules of engagement, we would have won that conflict. This guy is a moron, and just another example of liberal bias at the "paper of record" /sarcasm...

[stop_fascism]

You are so right, and I'm old emough to remember vietnam. Hedges' statement about VN ties as the stupidist statement in a really idiotic screed (ties with every other statement). America was almost destroyed by the aftermath of Vietnam. Jimmy Carter did his best to surrender to any American enemy he could find. He practically invented radical Islam. Many Americans were ready to accept third class status (behind USSR, China and Japan). Then, G_d in his mercy gave us Ronald Reagan. America changed and the world changed. Only a liberal elitist half-wit like Hedges would prefer the pre-Reagan world to this one.

[Temple Owl]

Thank you For_God_and_Country for a good post.