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To: Thane_Banquo
What about the child's right to make decisions about his body, his future, and his reproduction?

A fetus gets rights when it becomes capable of surviving outside the womb, or should. Until then it is just one more parasite living inside someones body.

Only liberal democrats could expect something with the lifestyle of a leach to recieve equal rights if they thought about it.

What happened to "individual responsibility"?

So9

8 posted on 05/21/2003 8:02:43 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Since some are the abortion discussion...again....I thought this would be an interesting read ....




Christianity, Libertarianism, and Abortion
Are Christianity and Libertarianism at war over abortion?


To answer the question we must first define the terms:

Libertarianism: The acceptance that all mankind is free to do as he pleases as long as he does not violate the rights of another individual (this does not mean there are no personal consequences, just no government intervention), if the person does violate the rights of another person then it is a crime.

Christianity: The acceptance of Jesus the Christ’s sacrifice upon the cross for the forgiveness of mankind’s sin and the following of the precepts of the Bible.

Abortion: The destruction of an embryo.

Before we address the issue of the embryo, it should be conceded that the man’s sperm and woman’s egg have no perpetual life and are designed to die. It is therefore true of these cells that the man or woman are clear to do with them as they please; however though not all things that can be done should be done from a moral perspective.

The question now is what happens when these two cells (sperm and egg) merge into an embryo. The embryo unlike its components is no longer destined to be ejected from the body, but now maintains its own self-perpetuation. Though the embryo is reliant upon the nurturing from the mother, it is still self-replicating and requires no additional external support or design to continue its growth (except nourishment).

What then distinguished the embryo at any stage in the womb to the moment just before birth to the moment just after birth and beyond? There is increased cell division, however, the design of the embryo at any stage has not changed. Therefore the human embryo immediately at conception or fifty years out of the womb has not changed except for increased cell division. The intelligence factor is a non-issue as we are referencing the physical human embryo and we cannot determine who has a right to life based on mental development at a particular stage of existence.

Therefore with true conviction as a Christian first and a Libertarian second, I can unequivocally state that the purposeful destruction of this self-replicating human embryo whether at the moment after conception, just before birth, or any time after birth should be considered murder.

What of women who are raped or were incestually fertilized? Is this the fault of the self-perpetuating human embryo? The answer is of course no. This is not to be insensitive to women who have been treated so terribly, but this is not about the rights of the woman, but of the self-perpetuating human embryo.

The determination of abortion being a crime or not is not within the purview of the powers granted to the Federal government. I will therefore continue to fight to remove ALL unconstitutional “Federal” laws, but do support a law making abortion illegal at the State level.

by Mark Andrew Johnson
Candidate - U.S. House of Representatives – District 8 – 2002
8518 Piccadilly Lane – Harrisburg, NC (28075)
http://www.markforusrep.com - mjohnson@markforusrep.com
15 posted on 05/21/2003 9:15:01 AM PDT by borntodiefree
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To: Servant of the Nine
What about the unborn children that have saved their mothers' lives by allowing the mother to temporarily share the unborn child's properly working kidney?
17 posted on 05/21/2003 4:56:14 PM PDT by candeee
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