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Iraqi war dog gets to retire with SF handler
USARMY ^ | 05/20/2003 | Staff Sgt. Marcia Triggs

Posted on 05/20/2003 4:33:00 PM PDT by Spruce

Iraqi war dog gets to retire with SF handler

by Staff Sgt. Marcia Triggs

WASHINGTON (Army News Service, May 20, 2003) -- An Iraqi-born German shepherd, who put his life on the line to guard U.S. Special Forces, escaped euthanasia and will soon travel to the United States to retire.

Sgt. 1st Class Russell Joyce, the Special Forces soldier from Fort Bragg, N.C., nursed the malnourished and abused dog from northern Iraq back to health and trained him. The dog guarded Special Forces soldiers who accomplished missions like taking control of Maqlub mountain, and removing the last of Mosul's defenses.

Upon arriving back to Fort Bragg, Joyce frantically sent out two e-mails to friends and family asking for help to get the faithful guard dog, Fluffy, shipped to the United States.

Those e-mails somehow traveled through cyberspace and reached numerous war dog associations and members of congress, who are lobbying to get Fluffy a ticket to the States.

An Air force Squadron at Kirkuk Air Base, Iraq, is currently taking care of Fluffy. However, as soon as the Department of Agriculture and the Office of the Secretary of Defense approves Fluffy's flight, he will begin his journey to the states, officials said. Approval is practically guaranteed as agencies from the Department of Defense, Army, Air Force and the consultant to the Army surgeon general for Veterinary Clinical Medicine scurry to expedite Fluffy's retirement.

Fluffy's fate was first in question May 11. He wasn't allowed to board the homeward-bound plane with the Special Forces soldiers.

"We purchased him from the Kurds to perform military operations, but the officer in charge of loading said that since he didn't originate in the States, and wasn't on order, he was not authorized to travel to the U.S.," Joyce said.

"Myself, and other people on my team, tried to explain that an Army veterinarian said Fluffy was fit for travel, and that I had the proper paperwork to prove it."

Joyce left Fluffy with an Air Force K-9 unit, but he was told that the unit could only hold onto the Shepherd for 72 hours.

"As his handler, I grew attached to him, but the reason I really wanted to see him in the States was because he supported us the whole time we were in Iraq," Joyce said.

"He walked guard with every American soldier in our compound, all night long. He chased stray dogs away. He never ran at the sound of bullets, and we were safe because he was there," Joyce said. "He was a deterrer, and that's an immeasurable success."

Fluffy joined Joyce's team with visible scars on his head and legs, weighing about 31 pounds and missing his front two bottom teeth. The full-breed shepherd spent his first night with the Special Forces so scared that he didn't move, Joyce said.

The soldiers only had two weeks to prepare Fluffy for duty, but he impressed the team by catching onto the commands very quickly and warming up to his new owners. He was trained to guard and be a pursuit dog. Upon release from his handler, he could chase and bring down a perpetrator.

"There's no dog food in Iraq," Joyce said. "So we all shared our food with him, and fed him out of the palm of our hands. He was never aggressive toward us, and his first name, Tariq Aziz, was not befitting of his character."

Tariq Aziz is the name of Saddam Hussein's foreign minister and is the eight of spades in the Iraqi leaders most wanted deck of cards. Aziz was the longest serving member of Hussein's regime but was captured April 25.

"I wanted a name for him that wasn't too macho, and didn't have so many syllables," Joyce said. "The first thing that came to mind was Fluffy, and eventually everyone started calling him by that name."

Fluffy traveled from the most northern part of Iraq, to the south, past the front lines, onto the edge of Mosul guarding his team members wherever they laid their heads.

The reason Fluffy will be allowed to travel to the United States is not based on a sympathetic military that feels for a soldier who was at risk of losing his dog. A U.S. military working dog about to be euthanized at the end of his useful life may be adopted by his former handler according to a law established by Congress Nov. 6, 2000, said Air Force Col. Fred Pribble, the special assistant for International and Security Affairs.

Not only is Joyce and his family anxiously awaiting the arrival of Fluffy, but also are veteran dog handlers who remember having to leave their four-legged comrades behind.

"I spend all night answering e-mails and phone calls from veterans who have fought in past wars," Joyce said. "Bringing Fluffy to the States isn't about me," Joyce said. "It's about the men who weep on the phone while they talk about the relationship they had with the dogs who served with them in war."


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To: Wild Irish Rogue; Texas Eagle
"A lot of the guys would tear up,30 years later, talking about the dogs they loved,many of them heroes and then had to abandon."

I wonder if any one of them would stand by and watch their dog die in a fire...what do you think, Texas Eagle?
21 posted on 05/21/2003 5:49:22 AM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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To: McGavin999
I think the Arabs are a little surprised at how attached Americans can get to dogs.

The Arabs would do well to learn how Americans respond to true loyalty. But that is probably not in their character.

22 posted on 05/21/2003 5:59:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (WWJCD? What would Jeff Cooper do?)
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To: blam
Bea is doing very well for a 12-1/2 year-old lady-dog! I told her ten years ago when I got her that we were "going to grow old together!" She's doing her part!!

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23 posted on 05/21/2003 10:07:08 AM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: Gigantor
I wonder if any one of them would stand by and watch their dog die in a fire...what do you think, Texas Eagle?

Kind of a weird question but I'll tackle it. It would probably depend on the situation. If it was a case where these guys saw a dog in a burning building and there was nobody around to put the fire out, they would probably do whatever was necessary to try to save the dog's life. But, on the other hand, if there were already trained fire fighters on scene addressing the fire, my guess is these guys (who are trained to follow orders) would probably not interfere with the trained firefighters who would wait to make sure it was safe enough to send a fellow trained firefighter in to save the dog. They most certainly wouldn't risk making an already dangerous situation even more dangerous by recklessly breaking a sliding glass door and risk causing a venturi which would cause the fire to burn even hotter than it already was. You may not have noticed this in the story, but as much as those guys loved the dog, they trained it to chase perpetrators!

I'll give you a moment to digest that.

Okay, that's enough time. Has it come to you yet? Or do you need more time?

24 posted on 05/22/2003 6:25:36 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: ASOC
I'd say there was shame enough to go around.
25 posted on 05/22/2003 9:09:58 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Texas Eagle
Great! You've changed your tune and admitted your error when you originally accused the guy of causing a 'backdraft." Now it's a 'venturi' - thanks!

Anyway, nice to see you admit you were mistaken.

Too bad you didn't answer my question, but at least you're facing your errors so it's a start! Keep it up.

26 posted on 05/24/2003 1:54:39 AM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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To: Gigantor
Great! You've changed your tune and admitted your error when you originally accused the guy of causing a 'backdraft." Now it's a 'venturi' - thanks!

LOL! There's a major difference? Don't both have to do with airflow?

Too bad you didn't answer my question,

I didn't???? You don't think the following addresses your question:

"If it was a case where these guys saw a dog in a burning building and there was nobody around to put the fire out, they would probably do whatever was necessary to try to save the dog's life. But, on the other hand, if there were already trained fire fighters on scene addressing the fire, my guess is these guys (who are trained to follow orders) would probably not interfere with the trained firefighters who would wait to make sure it was safe enough to send a fellow trained firefighter in to save the dog. They most certainly wouldn't risk making an already dangerous situation even more dangerous by recklessly breaking a sliding glass door and risk causing a venturi which would cause the fire to burn even hotter than it already was. You may not have noticed this in the story, but as much as those guys loved the dog, they trained it to chase perpetrators!"

Oh, by the way. Did you notice that those guys love the dog so much that they intentionally sent it into harm's way? Do you know why? Because as much as they loved the dog, they valued the life of a fellow soldier more than the life of the dog. I would say that puts them in the same mindset as the firefighters.

27 posted on 05/24/2003 8:50:43 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: namgniklaw
Why the hell are they EUTHANIZED AT ALL?

That's what I was thinking! I'm betting not many of them meet this fate.

My dad handled dogs in WWII . . . two of them were credited with saving five American lives in a three month period in the Ardennes. One was killed in the Battle of the Bulge. The survivor's great-great-great-great. . . I figure about eight or nine great's but I might've missed one or two . . . great-grandpuppy lies at my feet as I write this. She's eight and a half weeks old. My dad was allowed to bring the last one home and we've kept his blood-line going.

It's a great family tradition that all of us treasure. I've got a large family and our tentacles poke out in a gazillio directions . . . but most of us have an animal tied back to Boom-Dammit! LOL. I swear, that was his name.

28 posted on 05/24/2003 10:58:51 AM PDT by geedee (Part of the secret of a success in life is to eat what you like and let the food fight it out inside)
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To: Spruce
The Kurds brought back a malnourished German shepherd who apparently had been
maltreated by the Iraqi army.


Let's recap:
A GERMAN Shepard dog
owned and donated by KURDS
to AMERICANS
to help them liberate IRAQIS

Amazingly, you won't see this saga praised by our home-grown nutburgers who
are always shouting how that ain't just enough DIVERSITY out there...
29 posted on 05/24/2003 11:16:54 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Spruce
bump
30 posted on 05/24/2003 12:58:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Texas Eagle
Gigantor: "Too bad you didn't answer my question"

Texas Eagle: "I didn't???? You don't think the following addresses your question:

"If it was a case where these guys saw a dog in a burning building... and there was nobody around to put the fire out, they would probably do whatever was necessary to try to save the dog's life. But, on the other hand, if there were already trained fire fighters on scene addressing the fire, my guess is these guys (who are trained to follow orders) would probably not interfere with the trained firefighters..."

The question I put to you was about 'one of their dogs' not 'a dog' - big difference.

If they saw *their own* dog trapped behind a glass door would they stand there and watch it die, as you said should be done? I don't think they would do that - they would climb up and try to save their dog no matter what.

"Oh, by the way. Did you notice that those guys love the dog so much that they intentionally sent it into harm's way?"

Sure. They and the dogs were both soldiers. Once home after the war and off the batlefield, if they saw their dog trapped in a fire they would try to save it.

I must commend you for showing signs of mellowing out and moving away from your original hearltless stance.

You've not only backed away from your original claim about a 'backdraft,' but you've also stopped saying 'stupid dog.'

There is still hope. I'm proud of you. Keep it up!
31 posted on 05/25/2003 1:37:36 AM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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To: Gigantor
The question I put to you was about 'one of their dogs' not 'a dog' - big difference.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

32 posted on 05/25/2003 8:58:43 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Spruce
To honor your partner
poems for Working Dogs, K-9's, SAR, WAR, Guide & Assistance Dogs & All Mounted Police Horses


33 posted on 05/25/2003 9:00:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Who let the dogs out?)
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To: Texas Eagle
After all, the guy in Tennessee saved *his own* dog. You called both him and his dog 'stupid' and expected him to stand by and do nothing but watch his own dog die.

Do you think the soldiers would stand by and watch their own dog die behind the glass patio door? Would they, too, be 'stupid' in your eyes if they saved the dog they love?

34 posted on 05/25/2003 10:25:56 PM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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To: Gigantor
Actually, I called the guy an idiot. But you're right, I did call the dog stupid. If the dog was so smart why didn't it let itself out the door? Besides, other people called the firefighters "cowards" and "p*ssies" and other such names. Why is it okay to call a fellow human being names but I can't call a stupid dog a stupid dog? Seems to me you people have your priorities out of whack.

I believe I answered the other question before but I will be happy to answer it as many times as it takes. I doubt the TRAINED, PROFESSIONAL soldier would interfere with the work of the TRAINED, PROFESSIONAL firefighters on scene. Being a TRAINED, PROFESSIONAL soldier himself, he probably would respect the TRAINED, PROFESSIONAL firefighters on scene.

Let's say the dog belonged to an imbedded reporter. He wouldn't appreciate the reporter taking matters into his or her own hands and deciding for himself or herself just how he or she is going to rescue one of those dogs....excuse me......HIS DOG should it find itself in a precarious position after being sent in to chase a perpetrator, especially when there are TRAINED, PROFESSIONAL soldiers who know best how to assess the risk.

35 posted on 05/26/2003 1:09:31 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
"I believe I answered the other question before..."

You haven't had the courage to answer my question, instead you change the question. That is very telling. All I need to know. Thanks!



36 posted on 05/26/2003 10:46:44 PM PDT by Gigantor (Annoy a gov't worker - demonstrate that they reallty aren't needed...)
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