To: ALS
I think the anger at creationists is directed more toward the fact that Evolutionists see creationists as being willfully ignorant, and either unable or unwilling to fathom basic science. This is not an attack it is an observation to why creationists are attacked so fervently. While I deplore the personal attacks sometimes I feel that most creationists would benefit from a basic science class or two. Maybe we creationists would benefit from some church but I had 18 years of that. The Southern Baptist in me was taught that you had to either believe all the doctrine is true or none of it. I guess when I found out the bible wasn't all true that that all or nothing attitude took over.
313 posted on
05/21/2003 8:26:06 PM PDT by
Sentis
To: Sentis
"I think the anger at creationists is directed more toward the fact that Evolutionists see creationists as being willfully ignorant, and either unable or unwilling to fathom basic science."
The assumption of such is the problem. Like I've been saying, I have been personally attacked as ignorant or unable to comprehend if I don't comply to their idea of science.
Neither case is true. I have an IQ(at last check) of 167.
So that wipes out the "unable to comprehend" assumptions.
I've studied the subjects of evolution and creationism, so I'm not ignorant. It's more probable that someone who has done both, has a better grasp and greater comprehension of both. As we grow in life we carry with us many assumptions we've brought with us, without checking. In time we learn to check, and throw off some of these things. This was done by looking, not just accepting it because someone we trust did.
I don't require a bible to disbelieve in Evolution, and I've stated why in a previous thread. Of course, that was attacked using the methods you described above.
To me, science is based on observations. Any observation is subjective by nature. When the preponderance of observations attain the same level, a theory becomes a fact. But a fact is merely what is believed to be accurate at the moment. It's not necessarily the TRUTH. There's a difference.
In the case of evolution, it's still just ONE theory. To watch the reaction of some on here, you would think it's the gospel, and they the crusaders. They become the very creatures they portend to despise. For all the world looking like projectionists.
An "ongoing" argument always requires this basic ingredient to exist:
At least two, arguing two differing views.
Now I know that sounds obvious at first glance, but the initial glance is deceiving. Notice I said two differing views. I didn't say two differing views of the same thing.
As long as Aric2000 and his ilk continue to assign to me attributes I don't posess, then they will never understand "my argument". I'm sure they would accuse me of the same, but I know what their argument is. It's open to see, but they know not mine, as they don't even comprehend what my views are surrounding the basics, like dates, etc.
Without knowing that, they argue fruitlessly.
This is precisely why when I entered into "this fray", my sole contribution was that "evolution is crap".
I didn't say, "hey I'm a creationist, which makes your theory crap". But I have been accused of saying it, ever since.
I know these guys do not represent the "scientific" view against those who don't believe, but they are sucking up all your air as you attempt honest discourse.
Probably the best way to handle this is for the rational evolutionists to call them on the carpet for disrupting the flow of conversation.
And finally, just as everyone else on here, I am free to state my opinion without preparing a term paper as to why.
my opinion is that evolution is crap.
fini
315 posted on
05/21/2003 9:33:52 PM PDT by
ALS
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To: Sentis; ALS
I think the anger at creationists is directed more toward the fact that Evolutionists see creationists as being willfully ignorant, and either unable or unwilling to fathom basic science. That's what I like about you humble intellectuals. You claim to be superior to creationists but exhibit the reasoning power of an adolescent. Your statement above has at least 3 flaws it it. So using your measure, were the flaws deliberate or did they flow from ignorance? Hint: I don't think you even know what the flaws are.
324 posted on
05/22/2003 5:19:48 AM PDT by
Dataman
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