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To: justshutupandtakeit
If government power is not used to protect us it can hardly be said that a failure means it had too much power.

The point is, what the government is proposing here is insane. When they talk about tracking purchases, there is simply no means to control and gather that data - and control would be a key part of the equation. You have the issue of cash, and you have the issue of the fact that even credit card data only captures date, store and amount. Was that $400 purchase at Wal-Mart a gun? Or a Stairmaster?Was that expenditure at a farm supply ammonium nitrate? Or seed corn and a part for the tractor?

So the feds would have to mandate that all item purchase info be captured. And require that folks paying cash provide ID and the ID be captured. And that all point of sale systems be modified to capture this information and transmit it to the government in a standardized format. And the data be loaded, matched and merged in something resembling realtime, when the IRS can't even implement systems where 99 percent of the data received has a linking key.

So either DARPA is lying to us that existing data will suffice (experience with direct marketing shows it will not), or they are lying in that they intend to devise ways to gather more data, or they don't have a clue as to what this project will require. It's that simple.

17 posted on 05/20/2003 12:59:38 PM PDT by dirtboy (someone kidnapped dirtboy and replaced him with an exact replica)
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To: dirtboy
Funny but my credit card info. gives a reference number for a purchase at a particular store. Some stores ask for name and phone number already.

Correctly pointing out that the IRS computer system has problems does not mean that other agencies don't go to the moon or drop bombs precisely where they wish.
21 posted on 05/20/2003 1:21:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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