Posted on 05/20/2003 8:14:33 AM PDT by theoverseer
So what is that little spark I get when I see the twins on the Coors ads??
Ummm.... I wonder what Bible this guy is reading?
For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' " Matt 15:19-20
"He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' " Mark 7:20-23
Since the Republican party decided to put a lot more effort into courting the gays than into their core base of social conservatives. This was just one more incident in a long developing pattern. The real point of the meeting was the lack of White House support for Sen. Rick Santorum. The RNC has no time to defend one of their own, but plenty of time to meet with the sodomite PAC.
So what is that little spark I get when I see the twins on the Coors ads??Hedonism.
Are you trying to tell me that Racicot was meeting with the gays in order to "witness" to them? I don't think so. In fact, in an earlier story he specifically denied that he was doing anything of the sort. And his questions to the Bauer, Weyrich, etc. group indicated that he had not even the faintest grasp of the reasons for their objections. It just wasn't on his radar screen.
David Horowitz should obviously become a chr*stian.
I don't give a hoot what the Nazarene said about anything. G-D A-MIGHTY in the Seven Noachide Laws, given to 'Adam, to Noach, and finally to all mankind in the Sinai revelation, makes homosexuality a capital offense.
But you know what'll happen. Those Israel-hating "palaeos" will take this endorsement of their beloved J*sus by Horowitz and cite this as evidence of the alleged "promotion" of homosexuality by Torah Judaism. Oh well.
I used to respect David Horowitz. Not any more.
I (and I believe most Christians) care about many things in the New Testament far more than the teaching on homosexuality, and would love to spend more time concentrating on those issues. Nevertheless, the homosexual lobby has made acceptence of thier particular perversity into the litmus test for social tolerance in America today, and as such have set themselves up in direct conflict with Christian morals. It is an attack that demands a response
In other words, when they shut up, we'll shut up.
I was wondering about that myself.
If you don't mind, I believe I'll take YOUR characterization of Horowitz as fact; I value YOUR opinion in these matters more than his.
Obviously. Apparently, Horowitz is one of them.
So how do you reconcile using the bible as the basis for political ideology?
I hope to make it the singular basis for my ideologies, political and all others.
Regardless, my only and very specific objective was to point out the error in giving the four Gospels and/or the words attributed to Christ more weight than any other part of the bible, as Horowitz does.
It's a new disease: Acquired Gary Bauer Syndrome.
Newsflash for you: one cannot advocate the violation of basic principles of morality and be considered a "good conservative."
Second newsflash: Jews have always detested homosexuality even more than Christians. Ask any Orthodox Jews what is G-d's teaching about homosexuality. You'll soon find out whether one has to "believe Christian theology" in order to oppose the agenda of the militant homosexuals.
You could turn the other cheek ;)
Seriously though... I know many mainline people who are not pro-homosexuality, and they don't let it consume their days. They do good works, they love their fellow man, and they lead not through violence of word, but through joy at being touched by the word.
If I was a homosexual, being yelled at by somebody frothing at the mouth, would not be a good selling point to see the errors of my ways. On the other hand, if I saw a happy, compassionate man, with a family, overcome by love for their fellow man, their family, their savior, their God... that is the person I would listen to if I wanted to change my ways.
The homosexual hating crowd, in my mind, does fall into the trap of hating the sinner, and not just the sin. They are filled with hatred, spewing from the depths of their hearts. It is why they are so unsucessful at affecting real change. But yelling epithats on street corners feels better, than compassionately teaching somebody the errors in their ways, with love and goodness in their hearts.
43 - 28 - 76 - Hut Hut Hike! LOL!
I honestly don't know why you even show up for these threads if all you ever do is cut-n-paste the same tired links that no one is going to read. It's almost amuzing.
I agree that Christian and Jewish scripture calls on believers not to engage in gay sex. But many secularists (including practicing Christians and Jews of the liberal persuasion) believe those passages are not binding on the faithful. It is not for the Republican Party to resolve the religious war between libs and fundy's, but to put out a clear conservative message and if gays like the message and vote Republican, its just fine with me. Apparently about a third do.
I disagree with Horowitz about a "gay agenda." Its a bad term because it labels all gays, but there is an agenda by the radical gay public interest groups to extend Civil Rights Act protection to gays, allow gay marriage and to use this special status to impose acceptance and secularism, to run practicing Christians from out of the schools, government and public life. Not all gays agree with this agenda.
This is good advice which I would be wise to heed. My point was the hypocrisy of those who try to use the Bible for their own purposes when they themselves don't believe. That applies to Horowitz for one, and the poster for another.
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