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Anyone Just Hear a TERRIBLE Presentation by Homeland Defense's Hutchinson IGNORING Illegal Aliens?
www.cspan.org ^ | 19 May 2003 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 05/19/2003 10:27:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: Digger
Stay in this "Two-Party Cartel" & get this type of treatment. Only ten years of saying the same old thing & NOTHING has changed. Change ONLY happens when you vote outside of it & break the cartel.

Bump That. This is the only way to stop the nightmare that the Beltway Party is visiting upon America. Both parties are way past redemption.

Our Founding Fathers must be rolling in their graves.

41 posted on 05/19/2003 11:32:30 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: cyncooper
Drones are a good idea, and the government owes the people an explanation as to why they haven't used this technology themselves. It's been around for years. The reason they haven't used them is because they're apt to work.

The problem now is that we have an administration that won't secure the borders under any circumstances. Even 9/11 didn't do it. The use of drones by the feds to stop the flow of illegals would be a waste of time..... like washing ones feet with socks on. Civilians need to do it, not the feds, and then get congress involved. They can stop the onslaught.

42 posted on 05/19/2003 11:34:27 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: cyncooper
"I live in Arizona and saw this story on local tv, complete with a demonstration of the drone. Feel better?"...

...Unmanned drone aircraft have worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now the Homeland Security Department is thinking about using them along the U.S.-Mexican border.

Yeah, and maybe I won't get wet if I stand under Niagra Falls holding an umbrella.

43 posted on 05/19/2003 11:35:10 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: Wolfie
He's used to ignoring reality.

Somebody's ignoring something, and it doesn't seem to be the administration.

What do you think of the drone idea, as just one tool in dealing with the illegal immigration problem?

44 posted on 05/19/2003 11:35:10 AM PDT by cyncooper (That was some carrier landing!)
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To: Digger
>>...Stay in this "Two-Party Cartel" & get this type of treatment...<<

Exactly. Almost seems like it's planned.

No matter who's in office, the country still gets "sold down the river".

If it weren't planned, you'd think they'd screw up once in a while and legislate something in our favor .

45 posted on 05/19/2003 11:39:14 AM PDT by FReepaholic
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To: cyncooper
>>...The drones could be used to track drug smugglers, illegal immigrants and terrorists...<<

We don't need drones to tell us they're coming across the borders. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT!!

Drones won't help a bit unless someone ACTS on that information.

46 posted on 05/19/2003 11:42:30 AM PDT by FReepaholic
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To: JohnGalt
One of the largest cocaine importers in the history of the country operated out of his jurisdiction while a US District Attorney in Arkansas and Asa never laid a finger on ole Barry Seal and the boys. He's a go along get along guy if ever there was one.

You forgot to point out he used to head the DEA. THE FREAKIN' DEA! You can't get much more cynical than Asa Hutchinson. Anyone thinking Homeland Security is about keeping Joe Citizen secure is totally deluded.

47 posted on 05/19/2003 11:42:41 AM PDT by eno_
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To: ImpotentRage
When in the hell is someone in authority - other than Tom Trancredo, who has been villified - admit that we are being invaded and the illegals (That means against the law, doesn't it?) are bankrupting the system?

Outside of Tom Tancredo and a few (very few) other True American Patriots in Congress...No One will talk about this invasion or it's dire consequences for America.

I have a much better appreciation of how many a Roman Citizen must have felt when their long standing Empire was crumbling 1,500 years ago.

48 posted on 05/19/2003 11:43:11 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: cyncooper
Yes it is the administration. This drone idea came about as a result of a group of citizens using them to patrol the Border after W's administration, despite 911, refused to do anything to secure the borders! Of course this citizens group was termed "vigilantes" by the globalists.

Ravenstar

P.S. Next time, especially for Congress vote your conscience not your prison sentence to a party that gives lip service to the Constitution then undermines it at nearly every turn.

49 posted on 05/19/2003 11:43:26 AM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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To: tscislaw
Drones won't help a bit unless someone ACTS on that information.

Did you think that up all by yourself?

Of course they would be used and then information gained acted on.

(Duh)

50 posted on 05/19/2003 11:45:26 AM PDT by cyncooper (That was some carrier landing!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Well I see its that time of day for the Tancredo knee jerks to pop up. When Mexicans start flying planes into our buildings maybe there will be reason to go ballastic over illegal aliens in relation to Homeland Defense. But until then I think you're just being ridiculous.

Seems to me there are a bunch of Americans out there too frightened to compete against uneducated third worlders who cant even speak the language. Maybe you guys should have paid attention in school if you are at that much of a disadvantage.

51 posted on 05/19/2003 11:45:40 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Bottom line... in my opinion someone is making money from this situation, and they are doing a damned fine job of concealing the truth behind it.

I don't buy for a minute the line that they are productive, and perform the jobs Americans won't do. That crap is nothing but bovine scatology in its finest form. There are too many of them living off the public dole, and clogging the judicial system, here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia to dispell these productive claims.

Nor do I subscribe to the fact that the Dumbocraps are using it to feed their voter roles. If this were the case then one would assume the Republicans would have put a stop to this a long time ago.

There is something about this nation's across-the-board policy of allowing illegal aliens to freely cross into this country, and it smells like rotten fish. As Rush always says.... "follow the money trail".

There is money being made here, and we are paying the price. I just wish I knew who and why.
52 posted on 05/19/2003 11:47:02 AM PDT by Duramaximus ( American Born, Gun_Toting , Aerospace Worker Living In A State That Worships Socialism)
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To: cyncooper
I think you are "droning" on about it. One of the citizens' border control groups just got a bunch of bad press from the usual pinko presstitutes for testing a drone. The Border Patrol will be "studying" the use of drones for about as long as it will take to certify the next 100 pilots for carrying in the cockpit - i.e. until we're too old to care.
53 posted on 05/19/2003 11:47:42 AM PDT by eno_
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To: cyncooper
>>...Did you think that up all by yourself? Of course they would be used and then information gained acted on. (Duh)...<<<

That's a nice looking infrared photo at the top of the page. You think anybody acted on that??

If they acted on the information they have, we wouldn't have the problem, now would we?

Golf Foxtrot Yankee

54 posted on 05/19/2003 11:48:12 AM PDT by FReepaholic
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To: eno_
It's about keeping Joe Citizen controlled, that is all it is about. Of course we will hear next election how you have to vote for one of the two major parties or you are "wasting" your vote. This is the most insidious, dishonest, and effective advertising campaigns the two majors have keeping the rather large conservative population transfixed believing they, the ones that are typical families that make up 97.5% of the population, are a minority in this country that have to acquiese to the shrill minorities because they have the power and "polls" show they are a minority.

Ravenstar
55 posted on 05/19/2003 11:50:01 AM PDT by Ravenstar (Reinstitute the Constitution as the Ultimate Law of the Land)
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To: tscislaw
Exactly........I am beginning to think that the Dems and the Rep are really one in the same. A two headed snake. Are not the Republicans in control now? I mean everyone that is not in a coma knows this is a national crisis, yet the members of both these parties stand gawking at this epic lawlessness, and actually encouraging it by not fighting against it, while demanding we pay our taxes, so they can continue this charade.

This is no lightweight issue. This is the most dangerous issue facing this country. Yet stone silence from both parties.......

56 posted on 05/19/2003 11:50:11 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: cyncooper
"You can be sure that is not the only tool being discussed to deal with a problem the administration fully recognizes."

Yes -- "recognizes," YET ignores.

57 posted on 05/19/2003 11:51:10 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: kcvl
I have to admit now that if I had had any idea that most of Arkansas would look more like Mexico than a portion of the American south, I would likely have stayed in Colorado, or found someplace else to go. While there is a significant population of Mexicans in Colorado, it has remained relatively stable and the majority have assimilated. Strange as it may seem, I barely noticed them there except in the rare instance of having to deal with one that spoke no English. Here, it is rare to find one who speaks ANY English. It is appalling and offensive, but then, since I'm not one of elite minorities, it is just fine if I am offended by whatever assaults on my sensibilities that the PC elite see fit to wield.
58 posted on 05/19/2003 11:52:01 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Tancredo Fan
Were can you get that Tancredo for President bumper sticker?
59 posted on 05/19/2003 11:55:34 AM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Joe Hadenuf
>>...I am beginning to think that the Dems and the Rep are really one in the same...<<

I believe it was George C. Wallace that said there wasn't a "dimes worth of difference" between the two parties.

I disagree with that somewhat. I believe there's "dollars" worth of difference in their moral beliefs. But the rest.....

60 posted on 05/19/2003 11:56:17 AM PDT by FReepaholic
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