[Luis Gonzalez]

I don't believe in anyone ussing the power of government to the extent that people in here want to.

The fight against this suppossed gay agenda falls in the lap of the citizens, but we've become real lazy these past few decades.

Church attendance is down in America, we worship secular comforts and pay lip service to God's command. Then, we try to use God as an argument when we get in trouble because of our lazyness as a people.

For example, I don't know how many times I've read on this forum that Roe v. Wade is responsible for the rise of abortions in America. Roe v. Wade is a symptom of the illness, not the illness in and of itself.

The illness being the desire by the members of our society to engage in worry-free, consequence-free sex.

If we truly believed in God, Roe v. Wade could stand forever, while no abortions were performed. By the same token, had we as a society not acted upon our desires to engage in consequence-free sexual activities, the "gay agenda" perhaps may have never been born.

Abortion and the rise of open homosexuality are nothing more than indicators of our own lack of morals as a society in general.

[Cultural Jihad]

If we truly believed in God, Roe v. Wade could stand forever, while no abortions were performed.

Your Democratic Party-based argument is disingenuous, Luis. We can all play the "If Only Everyone Thought As I Did" game. In fact, if everyone adhered to the kindness of religious morality we wouldn't need any laws, period. The issue isn't that we should allow all sorts of cruelties with the false hope that no one will engage in them; the issue is that people have a right to establish minimal rules of civilized conduct, and they have a further right to expect and encourage others to adhere to them, and to discourage their transgressions.