To: Jorge
"You actually think homosexuality is some modern activity that Jesus didn't have to talk about back in his day?"
No, no more than I think that *every* comment of His is recorded in the Scriptures.
"The idea that people now need graphic descriptions of things that have gone on for 1,000s of years is silly."
No, not in a lot of cases. Many people don't bother to think about such things until it's brought to their attention. Is it silly when foes of baby killing use photographs to demonstrate the reality of that atrocity?
"Jesus didn't talk about things that were simply unspeakable and anybody who had any sense knew it."
And we know that...how?
"Those who broadcast this sort of vulgar garbage on these boards are clearly not doing so in the name of holiness...but out of their desire to throw mud at those they have personal hatred for"
Charity requires that I assume you believe that statement, as offensive and false as it is. Accordingly, I'm going to do the best I can to explain why it isn't true.
As I stated above, many people don't think about such things until they're right in their faces. They are as a consequence often led by social pressures and the sophistry of activists to support positions that they would oppose if they thought the matter through with a full understanding of exactly what is involved.
It is therefore desirable, even a duty, to see to it that the full, explicit, ugly details are not hidden or glossed over, to help our fellow man avoid being flim-flammed.
It's interesting that so many accept the deceit involved in referring to abortion as the disposal of a clump of cells, or at best a "fetus," and in the aversion to the display of explicit photographs of early-term babies in the womb and of babies killed by abortionists (in collusion with their own mothers)--and yet we are here faced with opposition to exactly the same phenomenon (the presentation of accurate information) on the grounds that it is "vulgar garbage."
Well, yes, homosexual behavior is vulgar, and descriptions of it can be difficult to endure. Not, for me, as difficult as photographs of babies killed by abortionists or a description of partial-birth abortion, but difficult. But surely we have a duty to know the thing for what it is, to inform ourselves if we are to participate responsibly in society's decisions on such matters.
The pro-aborts often criticize the pro-life activists for the offensiveness and vulgarity of their (entirely accurate and truthful) photographs, and here we have people criticizing those who oppose the legitimization of SSAD for the offensiveness and vulgarity of their descriptions of homosexual acts.
Makes you go, "Hmmm."
263 posted on
05/24/2003 1:05:20 AM PDT by
dsc
To: dsc
Many people don't bother to think about such things until it's brought to their attention. Is it silly when foes of baby killing use photographs to demonstrate the reality of that atrocity? As objectionable as the photos in some pro-life rallies are to people..there is a distinct reason for them being displayed.
It is to discredit the claims that a fetus is not a baby and that abortion is NOT taking a human life.
As shocking and repulsive these photos are, they very effectively serve the purpose of exposing exactly what abortion is about.
There is however no such public debate over what fisting is, or what drinking urine means etc etc.
266 posted on
05/24/2003 5:17:11 PM PDT by
Jorge
To: dsc
"Those who broadcast this sort of vulgar garbage on these boards are clearly not doing so in the name of holiness...but out of their desire to throw mud at those they have personal hatred for"
Charity requires that I assume you believe that statement, as offensive and false as it is.
I don't need your charity, and you can "assume" whatever you like about what I "believe"..I don't really care.
I am quite familiar, all the Christian objections to homosexuality from a Biblical point of view and I agree with them 100%.
I've debated and discussed this issue in several online forums.
I know the difference between genuine moral convictions vs personal hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy.
I have never once heard a truly committed Christian address the issue of homosexual sin (or any other sexual sin for that matter) by making repeated graphic descriptions of every vulgar and obscene act they imagine people engaging in.
IMHO those who do so are deeply disturbed individuals with no sense of perspective on issues of holiness or morality.
267 posted on
05/24/2003 5:36:52 PM PDT by
Jorge
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