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So Far, U.S. Succeeds in Containing SARS
TBO ^ | May 19, 2003 | Daniel Yee AP

Posted on 05/19/2003 12:00:08 AM PDT by Judith Anne

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To: TBall
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030519-033121-2168r
61 posted on 05/19/2003 7:05:33 PM PDT by TBall
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To: sars321
Sounds like someone who wanted attention. Why on earth would you travel if you had any suspicion you had SARS and where on earth would she have contracted it? I'm sorry, but the amount of time this is being given in the US is beyond reason. There have been NO confirmed SARS deaths and few confirmed SARS cases.
62 posted on 05/19/2003 7:07:49 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify
It sounds like she may have been on a international flight and it stopped in NYC in route to RIA. Those loooong flights are killers. You can easily leave your destination feeling fine and 10-12 hours later be sick as a dog. It has happened to me several times. (obviously, not with SARS)
63 posted on 05/19/2003 7:14:15 PM PDT by riri
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To: TaxRelief
TaxRelief

Please, I am no communist-sympathizer! I am not her! Don't get paranoid. Frankly, before I read this thread, I never heard of her nor know that she is a leftist. I do now have to be more careful about what she have told me in light of some of you who have followed her other activities. So I am thankful for you pointing this out. My independent calls to several offices do seem to confirm my suspician that there is something wrong & perhaps a cover-up in that hospital. i will share my independent findings later on this thread.

64 posted on 05/19/2003 8:22:49 PM PDT by Watchman123
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To: riri
Has anyone of you bothered to call up the Sacramento Health dept. like I have? I did not take kelly's word for it. Let me tell you what I found out. A woman representative there by name of Leah (works under Ken August, the director)told me it has launched an investigation of this hospital in Solano County recently. Now tell me unless there is real call for concern, do you think they would waste time & money going to the hospital to investigate? They have not finished the investigation yet. It will going on "for another 2-3 weeks", that so far "there appears to be no infectious process going on" (She clarified to me ie. they did not find the pneomonia-type illness spreading to others in the hospital). Now you tell me if there apparently were no SARS-like illnesses and no truth to any alleged cover-up, why would this take 2-3 more weeks? You guys, think! Don't just shoot & overreact because of that woman. You already have a bias because she said "there is a problem, admit it.

My question is then how did Kelly and 4 other medical staffs get sick with the same SARS-like symptoms? From the patient(s)!I confirm from the hospital several days ago that Kelly was not working, that she has been sick, a FACT.

I asked her how many autopsies were done? She does not even know. What kind of investigation is that? Let me stress without autopsy showing attack on lungs..., one can't be sure whether it REALLY is SARS or not.

The press representative office for Ca. public health dept. is 916-657-3064. How about you call & confirm that this is what I discovered?

I asked what kind of virus the patients there have at XX hospital? She has no answer. I also sense she is not telling me something they know. I told Leah," I know that that hospital has had at least 68 patients with SARS-like symptoms and 20 deaths, is that not a high number, consider the flu / pneumonia season is over back in March? No real reply. She never disputed my figure of 20 deaths. More later tonight about my discovery of how many more people died in that county in April. A big jump! Nuff said for now.

65 posted on 05/19/2003 8:59:22 PM PDT by Watchman123
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To: Watchman123
What earthly reason would a hospital have for covering up a possible outbreak if it could mean the death of its own staff, other patients, and family members? These people would have to be suicidal to screw around with something this severe. It just doesn't make sense.
66 posted on 05/19/2003 9:03:58 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: dc-zoo
dc-zoo

Good question. Loss of business, bad image, liabilities because the hospital did not tell staffs to have to wear masks. Potential lawsuits IF patients find out the truth. Panic in the area. Profits. $ talks. It's easier said than done. If you are the director of a profitable hospital and this hits you. If you tell, you are dead (your business), and if you cever-up, you are dead. They are in a dilemma.

67 posted on 05/19/2003 9:11:38 PM PDT by Watchman123
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To: TBall
The coroner's office in that county (where the hospital is located) told me today that there were 97 total deaths in February, 111 in March but jumped to 130 in April (20 died of natural cause including disease). Now one of you skeptic call up this number & post a comment here to show I did my homework. Tel. 707-421-7500. Talk to the secretary Sheila there.

Also, have you ever called that hospital & got a clear hunch that they are covering up something? I did. I don't wish to name that hospital to this day. My sincere desire is NOT to cause a panic. I care about public health & I don't wish to see someday we all wearing masks on the streets! When I told the manager last week," I know you must have a health crises going on there. I know that Kelly is sick with SARSlike symptoms. You guys are probably so scared you don't know how to handle this (to tell or not to tell). He was so nervous that he repeatedly said," I am sorry. I can't comment on this. I am not allowed to" Think again. If there is no coverup & no SARS-like illnesses, why didn't he just come out & say "It's a lot of baloney. It is not true...." ? We can usually tell if someone is lying or hiding something.

The hospital’s PR spokesman still has not returned my inquiry.

68 posted on 05/19/2003 9:40:27 PM PDT by Watchman123
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To: Watchman123
If you really believe in this you should spend some time contacting major news media and convince them. Why are you spinning your wheels here? Why would it take three weeks to investigate if people died of sars-like illness? If what you say is true the CDC and a hazmat team should be there now taking the place apart. Why don't you name the hospital and people involved? Time is of escence.
69 posted on 05/19/2003 9:43:42 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: dc-zoo
Please do not be too harsh. Do you realize i have i already contacted all major TV, radio newspapers in the bay Area? Most are so complacent or sure that it can't happen, they didn't bother to reply. I have contacted & informed KSFO, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage... need i give more. there is only one TV reporter seriously looking int this & calling the places i suggested to her. We are working together day & night while you ignorant people bashed me.

What i posted here, i have already sent to many of these media personalities. You ask them why they do not take this up? I even know personally a few of these media reporters & talk hosts. Are they afraid of triggering PANIC? Why don't some of you who posted here do your own investigation. it's Kaiser hospital in Vallejo, Ca. Okay? The number is 707-651-1000. Ask to talk to Kyle Kim. Assist. Manager of Respiratory Therapy. It was he who told me nervously," I can't comnment on this..." Why don't you take up my challenge & call them yourselves , you arrogant skeptics & tell me later here whether they will give you a 'No reply. No comment. "It's a rumor only type reply?" Go back to my earlier posts & ask them those questions I posted & tell me what they tell you.

Their tactics keep changing, now they got another pointman to take the questions, Cynthis, head of Respiratory care dept. see if she will bother to return your phone call.

Pretend that you have done some nosing around & talking to people & ask her," From what I can gather, dozens of your patients & several medical staffs have become infected with 20 dead in 4 weeks. I know the Ca. public health dept has begun an investigation. They are not finished yet, right? Is that not an unusually high number this season of the year? The Solano Ct. corona office recoreded a high number of 130 total dead, 20 more than in March 03. Could those 20 be from Kaiser, Vallejo? How many of them have had autopsies performed on them to determine whether they have SARS? Why are your 10 isolation rooms reportedly very busy with a lot of patients going in? If there is no real infectious diseasex going around, why are thoses rooms so busy, according to respiratory therapists? What are they being isolated for? SARS-like illnesses, pheomonia with Hi fever, diarrhea, breathing difficulties"? ,/p>

Watch her squirm & sweat. I am eager to see if any of you have liuck. Hey, put the pressure on them. If there is really nothing to be worried about, show the public the charts, & the record. No, they will hide behind "patient's rights of privacy. This has made the investigation harder.

70 posted on 05/19/2003 10:59:28 PM PDT by Watchman123
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To: dc-zoo
Warning over new killer diseases

Dr Brundtland urged countries to work together to fight diseases Global health chiefs have urged countries around the world to be on alert for new killer diseases. The World Health Organization has warned that new diseases could spread in the wake of the deadly Sars virus.

Even if it is not SARS at this hospital, it should be more alert & quick to act & report flu killer diseases, right? Officials have urged governments to work more closely together to try to deal with the threat.

The call was made at the WHO's annual assembly of its 192 member states in Geneva on Monday.

'More outbreaks'

Dr David Heymann, head of its communicable diseases unit, suggested fresh outbreaks of deadly viruses were almost inevitable.

"There will be more outbreaks like SARS, there's bound to be more," he told journalists.

There will be more outbreaks like SARS -Dr David Heymann

Well, could this SARS-like disease be one of these?

He said the biggest threat would be an outbreak of a deadly strain of influenza. "The big concern is influenza," he said.

The last flu pandemic in 1919 claimed 40 million lives across the globe.

71 posted on 05/20/2003 7:18:48 AM PDT by Watchman123
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To: Watchman123
Well that's it. I've reached my last straw on the Kelly story. I believe I'll wait for the "Fox News Alert" if there ever is one. As they say "we report.. you decide".
72 posted on 05/20/2003 10:32:47 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Watchman123
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/05/20/ar_sara_worden.htm
73 posted on 05/20/2003 11:24:03 AM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall
Interesting. Could it be? Somebody call Shep Smith pronto.
74 posted on 05/20/2003 1:02:15 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: dc-zoo
OK, what did I miss? I see a bunch of deleted threads.
75 posted on 05/20/2003 1:04:50 PM PDT by riri
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To: riri
er..deleted posts, I mean.
76 posted on 05/20/2003 1:05:15 PM PDT by riri
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To: riri
Well Watchman123 was fighting like hell defending his story and stands by it. Says he has contacted major news media so let's see if anything else shows up with sources. Hardhead that I am will keep an open mind.
77 posted on 05/20/2003 1:16:52 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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