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U.S. Shocks with Promise to Back Anti-Smoking Pact (Tommy Thompson told journalists (WHO)) )
reuters ^ | 5/18/2003 | Karen Iley

Posted on 05/18/2003 11:41:47 AM PDT by TLBSHOW

U.S. Shocks with Promise to Back Anti-Smoking Pact

GENEVA (Reuters) - The United States said Sunday it would fully support a global anti-smoking treaty at this week's world health meeting, startling observers by dropping its objections to the pact.

"I'm going to support it -- much to the surprise of many around the world," U.S. Health Secretary Tommy Thompson told journalists on the eve of the World Health Organization's (WHO) annual assembly.

Despite having some of the world's toughest anti-smoking rules, the United States, along with Germany, had opposed a clause to ban advertising saying it went against constitutional guarantees to free speech.

In what appeared to be an about-turn on the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, the world's first international treaty on health, Thompson said he would not call for alterations to the text.

"I'm not going to make any changes. We have no reservations. The delegation here, headed by me, is in support of the tobacco treaty," he said.

Health activists said they were thrilled by the U.S. change of heart on tobacco.

"It's an astonishing departure from the obstructionist position the United States has taken throughout the negotiations," said Kathryn Mulvey, executive director of U.S. anti-smoking alliance Infact.

However Thompson stopped short of saying the United States would ratify the pact, which aims to wean the world off a habit that kills almost five million people a year.

President Bush, bogged down with other issues such as Iraq and getting the economy back on track, had not yet had a chance to review the text with his lawyers, he said.

"The president is going to make a determination as to if and when he signs it... He's still reviewing it. It got up on his personal radar screen this past week, I've given him my pitch and he was quite supportive," he said.

The treaty seeks to tackle the consequences of tobacco use with measures ranging from a halt in advertising to a crackdown on smuggling and a ban on cigarette sales to minors.

The United Nations health agency predicts the number of people dying each year from cancer, cardiovascular disease and other conditions linked to smoking could exceed 10 million by 2020, with 70 percent of the victims in the developing world


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KEYWORDS: antismoking; pact; pufflist; shocks; unitednations; us
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Just another Joe

It seems you will find only a minority here on FR that find anything wrong with any laws, or treaties, against smoking, smokers, or any type of legislation against these.
It is sad that as we try to hold to the Constitutional Republic, others don't care that the creeping crud of socialism, straight democracy, and global government are coming to our shores at an ever increasing pace.

Amen, brother, say it again.

42 posted on 05/18/2003 1:06:19 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: Gabz; Just another Joe
They refuse to see the big picture that this is much, much more.

You got that right. I ditto everything you and JaJ are saying. Some people are frogs in cold water that's slowly heating up on the stove of socialism....very sad indeed.

FMCDH

43 posted on 05/18/2003 1:07:15 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: EGPWS
Don't focus on "the crap". Keep a keen eye on the overall issues. Leave the crap for the Dimecrats to focus on while Dubya' keeps his focus on the overall gains to personal freedoms we all hold dear.

LOL! You forgot the sacasm alert; many here won't realize you joking.

Save the Elephants from the Rhimos!

44 posted on 05/18/2003 1:10:21 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: TLBSHOW
From,anti smoking treaty" The text requires signatory parties to implement comprehensive tobacco control programmes and strategies at the national, regional and local levels. The text also explicitly recognizes the need to protect public health, the unique nature of tobacco products and the harm that companies that produce them cause"

The propoganda will be stepped up, the un will have to get a cut of taxes...

45 posted on 05/18/2003 1:12:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Gabz
As I said, you have me confused, could you please clarify a bit?

Sure. What I mean to say is,(as a smoker I might add) that as our freedoms are being taken away, they are being so because,IMHO, people are focusing on issues I.E. smokers rights and making emotional decisions on them when the focus should be on overall human rights granted by the constitution. (the Oprah Winfrey syndrome)Dubya' has the political saavy to understand this and is taking it apart piece by piece. If he were to try and make things better overnight he knows he would follow in his fathers footsteps and be a 1 term President through votes of emotion. This would not be helpful at all is the way I see it. He has done a fabulous job of playing the Dim's game and he is winning it politically, don't you agree?

46 posted on 05/18/2003 1:15:35 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
47 posted on 05/18/2003 1:25:05 PM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: EGPWS
Maybe it is the stress I have dealt with today with an overly obnoxious 4 year old on a rainy day - but I still really have no clue what you are talking about.

I'm not looking at smokers rights or even making emotional decisions here.

This, IMHO, is just another nail in the coffin of having the God-given and constitutionally guaranteed rights of Americans of free speech, free association, and personal property being tossed down the hopper and flushed along with the same rights of every residents of every other socialist nation on this planet.
48 posted on 05/18/2003 1:26:08 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: EGPWS
Dude, what are you smokin?

In case you haven't noticed. GWB is a Republican. That makes him quite hostile to the idea of actually following the Law of the Land. If you want the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and respect for basic first principles like personal responsibility and private property then it is simply impossible to be a Bushee.

49 posted on 05/18/2003 1:38:20 PM PDT by FreeRadical (GunDealers.com -- Because Some people are Marxists)
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To: A. Pole
I would enjoy if you gave some examples of those "gains to personal freedoms", please?

1) Tax cuts and forcing government spending closer to the home of each tax payer

2) Stiffeling terrorism in our country

3)Giving the market a jolt which I am very pleased to see.

4)Increasing Federal spending, which was cut by previous administrations, on defense which is the biggest reason for Federal Government spending.

5)His nominee's for the court's which are being held back because of another party's stiffeling of our personal rights through government.

6)His lack of concern for stating religious beliefs while holding office.

7) He prevented, through his hard efforts, a Dimocrat from holding the POTUS position.

8)He Commanded the troops who ousted a known tyrant, which never would have come about if he were to have been defeated in his run for president.

9)Whether you want to believe it or not, he has started the ball rolling to make the U.N. irrelevant.(this is a definite boost to our personal freedoms)

10)He has given us our respect back as United States citizens as percieved by the rest of the civilized world.

50 posted on 05/18/2003 1:40:31 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Gabz
I still really have no clue what you are talking about.

I think it is because you do not see the larger picture. EGPWS points to the need to keep Democrats out of power.

He wrote:
"If he were to try and make things better overnight he knows he would follow in his fathers footsteps and be a 1 term President through votes of emotion. This would not be helpful at all is the way I see it. He has done a fabulous job of playing the Dim's game and he is winning it politically, don't you agree?"

I understand that he means, that if Bush did the right on the particular issues, he and Republicans would be penalised by losing power. But by clever embracing of Democrats agenda he can take the votes away from them.

51 posted on 05/18/2003 1:40:34 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: EGPWS
"I'm not going to make any changes, no reservations," Thompson told a small group of journalists. "Our delegation here, headed by me, is in support of the tobacco treaty." http://www.canada.com/health/story.html?id=A797ABC2-2AA8-4F9C-9871-F8BF6FDD7BE0

52 posted on 05/18/2003 1:45:32 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: TLBSHOW
OK, some explain to me what exactly is the use of a 'global treaty' on smoking and how would US participation help? Why can't these countries simply pass the smoking restrictions themselves? Right or wrong, the US already did that themselves, what's stopping those morons from doing the same. I would think that it would be less trouble than formulating an international treaty and getting all those countries to ratify it. This seems to be almost as big a waste of time as the UN.
53 posted on 05/18/2003 1:46:48 PM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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To: FreeRadical
Dude, what are you smokin?

Carlton's...and I can now see why you carry the screen name you do!:)

54 posted on 05/18/2003 1:47:45 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Great Dane
"70% of the population in the third world, dies whether they smoke or not."

I think this stat is a little low unless you mean die before some sort of nominal average life span.
55 posted on 05/18/2003 1:49:17 PM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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To: A. Pole
I understand that he means, that if Bush did the right on the particular issues, he and Republicans would be penalised by losing power. But by clever embracing of Democrats agenda he can take the votes away from them.

Well said, A. Pole! We could use more of your kind of "visionary thinking" here at FR!

Have you considered a professional life on broadcasting?

56 posted on 05/18/2003 1:56:04 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: pragmatic_asian
it is all about socialist and their socialism.......
57 posted on 05/18/2003 1:57:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: EGPWS
Have you considered a professional life on broadcasting?

Yes. Do you know about some openings for me?

58 posted on 05/18/2003 1:58:17 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Just another Joe
We need to get a letter writing campaign to the White House going on this.
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Legally, President Bush isn't allowed to do this. He's not allowed to make treaties that effect the internal laws of our nation.

What's next? This is no more a legal act it than it would be if President Bush promoted an international treaty banning private ownership of handguns.

59 posted on 05/18/2003 1:59:26 PM PDT by exodus
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To: A. Pole
But by clever embracing of Democrats agenda he can take the votes away from them.

.....

lol

yep run with their issues and expand them even more, what a plan.........

here is a good one from the nanny govt.

The President’s Recommendations for Avoiding Risky Behaviors
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/fitness/chapt6.html


60 posted on 05/18/2003 2:01:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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