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Toward a Red Planet (Superman goes Communist)
National Post ^ | Monday, May 12, 2003 | Jeet Heer

Posted on 05/16/2003 11:20:08 AM PDT by adam_az

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To: HELLRAISER II
I may have misinterpreted his comment but I thought he meant the 1960s "new realism, anti-hero" comics like Denny O'Neil and Neal Adam's GreenLantern/GreenArrow (drug abuse, slams at Nixon, Christ figures, etc.).
41 posted on 05/16/2003 12:47:43 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: billbears
The writer of the article thinks its a good thing and shows the positive sides of socialism. He also uses it as an opportunity to dig at President Bush.

I'm writing about the article, not the comic.

42 posted on 05/16/2003 12:50:43 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
if this is like miller's other works,

Truth, Justice, and the American Way win out.
43 posted on 05/16/2003 1:01:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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44 posted on 05/16/2003 1:14:33 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: longtermmemmory
I'm familiar with the work of FRANK Miller (and even Pete Millar, of Car-toons) but not of MARK MILLAR.
45 posted on 05/16/2003 1:19:43 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: adam_az
So far this comic book year, Supes went commie, the Rawhide Kid went gay, and the Super Soldier formula that was originally thought to have been first tested on a white guy (who became Captain America) was actually secretly tested on black men first.

Keep trashing our heroes.

46 posted on 05/16/2003 1:22:14 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: weegee
That's why I posted it...
47 posted on 05/16/2003 1:24:58 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: weegee
holy name confusion: its an ooops!
48 posted on 05/16/2003 1:30:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Melas
Ahhh so!
49 posted on 05/16/2003 1:38:48 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Melas
I should add that while I am a fan of the Man of Steel, I am a died in the wool Marvel reader and collector. Stan Lee is my hero.
50 posted on 05/16/2003 1:40:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: adam_az
Superman goes Communist

It's been done.

51 posted on 05/16/2003 1:43:16 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (There is no Muse but Jabootu, and Ed Wood is His prophet.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
spiderman movie, crowd scene where the goblin takes out the board of directors. The man with grey hair who pulls the little girl from dangers is stan lee.
52 posted on 05/16/2003 1:44:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: adam_az
"What next, a blonde Nazi version called Ubermensch?"

FYI there is a Short Story titled Ubermensch and it deals with the idea that Superman fell to earth in Germany in the 30's rather than America.

Wasn't a bad read!

53 posted on 05/16/2003 1:47:51 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Smedley
"Little Tommy Taylor, from Ft. Wayne Indiana, writes in to ask: "what if Superman was from Nazi Germany?"

another classic was..

"Little Tommy Taylor, from Ft. Wayne Indiana, writes in to ask: "what if Napoleon had a fully loaded B-52 at the Battle of Waterloo?"

The cast of SNL should sue this POS for plagarizing their ideas!!
54 posted on 05/16/2003 1:51:41 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Smedley
Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's Commieman!
Yes, it's Commieman.
Strange visitor from another collective,
who came to Mother Russia with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal man.
Commieman,
Who can change the course of Capitalism;
Bend truth with his bare hands.
And who, disguised as Klark Kentovich,
mild mannered reporter for Pravda,
fights a never ending battle for untruth, injustice and the Socialist way.
55 posted on 05/16/2003 1:53:57 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Is Perry White, Perry Red?)))
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To: adam_az
Sounds like more Stalinist revisionism. Unless its really Bizarro in Bizarro World where, of course, Soviet Russia would be the reigning superpower.
56 posted on 05/16/2003 2:03:24 PM PDT by fat city
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To: adam_az
The above article by this socialist was pure projection and BUNK.

"Superman" as originally envisioned by Siegel and Schuster (possibly pre-stock market crash) was a character on a whole planet of super beings. They wrote to a fanzine and received a response from SF author Jack Williamson who suggested that they place their "super man" among a race of normal bodied beings.

I think that they then positioned Superman as a villian (these were merely text stories).

Superman

Superman's early development was awkward. Siegel first used the name in 1933 for a science fiction story titled, “The Reign of Superman,” with illustrations by Schuster. Inspired by the German philosopher Nietzsche, Siegel's first Superman was an evil mastermind with advanced mental powers. Unfortunately, the text of this story has been lost to history. After Hitler came to power in Germany in 1933 and proceeded to distort Nietzsche's concept of Superman, Siegel and Shuster decided to rethink their own concept of Superman's character

"The Reign Of Superman" may be extremely rare but Nicholas Cage auction off a copy last year.

57 posted on 05/16/2003 3:04:08 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
But Stan Lee is a Clinton-supporting wacko...
58 posted on 05/16/2003 3:19:59 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: longtermmemmory
The man with grey hair who pulls the little girl from dangers is stan lee.

I saw that! It actually took me until the 3rd viewing to recognize Stan in that scene. It went by so fast.

59 posted on 05/16/2003 3:20:34 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Paul Ross
But Stan Lee is a Clinton-supporting wacko...

Nobody's perfekt.

60 posted on 05/16/2003 3:21:19 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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