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Md. Teacher Finds Botched PSAT Question
WBALTV ^ | May 14, 2003 | WBAL

Posted on 05/15/2003 4:07:50 PM PDT by ZinGirl

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To: RightWhale
". . . pronouns should only refer to nouns and in this case Morrison's name is used as an adjective."

Wrong. The usage is incorrect.

First there is no "continuing subject in the essay". The question is directed to only the presented sentence. It is a rather simple question regarding grammer. 'Genius'is the noun and "Toni Morrison's" is clearly and adjective describing the noun. It is Toni Morrison's genius.

Sentence structure does not rely upon a "continuing subject" of an essay. Each sentence must stand on its own- either gramatically correct or not.

61 posted on 05/15/2003 4:40:07 PM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: walkingman
"This guy is an idiot. What he's suggesting is that the pronoun should refer to 'genius'..."

Yes, thank you, I agree. Of course, I still hope my kid's score will go up, she took the PSAT during this round, but as I'm reading this article I'm trying to re-write the sentence, and not having much success. Saw some of the suggestions here, but those were entirely different constructions. "Toni Morrison's genius" is a possessive, not an adjective.

Thank you for making me feel less stupid and more sane!
62 posted on 05/15/2003 4:40:44 PM PDT by jocon307 (i just post without looking now!)
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To: George from New England; SpyGuy
my exact thoughts....
63 posted on 05/15/2003 4:40:46 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Genius enables Toni Morrison

Enable is so common, such a basic-800-words kind of verb that it begs, beseeches for replacement. How about "genius badgers Toni Morrison day and night until she finally falls from exhaustion after extracting the essence of the Afro-Amer whatever and distilling it into the finest, purest, most refreshing oasis spring water a thirsty desert traveller can imagine." Like that, u no?

64 posted on 05/15/2003 4:41:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Post no Bills)
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To: walkingman
Totally incorrect.
65 posted on 05/15/2003 4:42:11 PM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: ThinkDifferent
it's

Curses be upon MS Word auto-complete. :)

66 posted on 05/15/2003 4:42:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Post no Bills)
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To: ricpic
With one sentence, the communists over at the Educational Testing Service of Princeton N.J., can reinforce both white guilt and black resentment in young impressionable minds.

LOL! Hey, they don't call 'em edumakaters fer nuthin!

67 posted on 05/15/2003 4:42:52 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: ZinGirl
The correct answer is Tony Morrison is NOT a genius.

She is a racist, moronic, leftist twit.

68 posted on 05/15/2003 4:43:11 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: John Valentine
On the money, m'friend!
69 posted on 05/15/2003 4:43:28 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Bullish
The correct answer is Tony Morrison is NOT a genius. She is a racist, moronic, leftist twit.

yeah, but if a student put THAT down, no matter how true, they probably wouldn't have earned the extra point.

70 posted on 05/15/2003 4:44:40 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Clara Lou
Nitpicky, yes. Substitution, no.

Personal pronouns are commonly used as nouns, for instance, 'I love her.'

One presumes, and rightly, that the woman in question is NOT an adjective. :^)

71 posted on 05/15/2003 4:45:43 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: ZinGirl
I'm not sure I accept this. Technically, "Toni Morrison's genius" could be translated to "the genius of Toni Morrison." In the latter case, Ms. Morrison's name is the object of a preposition -- i.e., a noun. True, the prepositional (actually a genitive) phrase is used as an adjective, but the name itself is still a proper nominative.

In the test question, "Toni Morrison's" is used as an adjective modifying "genius," but remains a genitive (possessive) noun.

In the sentence "My dog has fleas," is "My" an adjective or a possessive pronoun?

72 posted on 05/15/2003 4:46:02 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Each sentence must stand on its own- either gramatically correct or not.

Hyphens were dropped from the language years ago--waste of printer's ink. The old double-em is still around if your word processor can be fooled.

73 posted on 05/15/2003 4:46:54 PM PDT by RightWhale (Post no Bills)
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To: ZinGirl
Drango's hairy navel genius has enabled him to post on this thread.

alternative version...

Due to a massive (or is it massively) hairy navel and an sub-human IQ, Dragno has figured out how to turn on his computer and post to the internet. (turn on? Is this the same as amorous?

74 posted on 05/15/2003 4:47:21 PM PDT by Drango (There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binaries, and those that don't.)
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To: IronJack
You ain't (gotta love the grammar!) the only one not entirely happy with the "correction"....along with several not happy with the content of the stupid question in the first place.
75 posted on 05/15/2003 4:48:05 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: IronJack
It is a personal pronoun, case 'possessive', used as an adjective.
77 posted on 05/15/2003 4:49:19 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: netmilsmom
The correct answer would be that "her" is a dangling modifier.
78 posted on 05/15/2003 4:49:46 PM PDT by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: ZinGirl
here's what "they" say: the sentence was incorrect because the pronoun in the sentence -- "her" -- was used improperly. Keegan said pronouns should only refer to nouns and in this case Morrison's name is used as an adjective.

I disagree. Toni Morrison is a proper noun, used in the genitive case.

If only these self-styled grammarians knew some Latin.

79 posted on 05/15/2003 4:50:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Drango
Drango's hairy navel genius has enabled him to post on this thread.

no, no, no...haven't you been reading? Only Toni Morrison, herself, is allowed to be a genius (according to the wonderful folks concocting the PSAT)....she's just not allowed to modify herself....or something like that.

80 posted on 05/15/2003 4:51:56 PM PDT by ZinGirl (I think perhaps some of HER writing should have been modified)
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