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To: omegatoo
If a man is not willing to bend over backwards to give his wife what she needs, don't expect her to have anything but contempt for his demands.

That's pretty clever...mind if I borrow it?

Now let my tell you why you're dreaming. He's asking for one quantifiable, verifiable activity. You are stacking that against any number of nebulous "needs" that only she gets to judge as having been satisfied or not.

No thanks...my daddy always taught me you can't argue with performance.

363 posted on 05/15/2003 7:29:55 PM PDT by Woahhs
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To: Woahhs
He's asking for one quantifiable, verifiable activity

Now let me tell you why you are completely wrong. To a woman sex is not just an activity. It is soul-sharing, total immersion of herself into her mate. Of course no woman expects it to be perfect every time, but a part of her always needs that. Any man who says 'honey I love you but.... has now put conditions on his love. A woman has trouble committing to a man who doesn't love her unconditionally.

You are also completely wrong about the Mars/Venus books. One the key ideas in the book is for women to learn not to expect to get from their mate what they should get from their girlfriends. It does, however have some great translations to help you find ways to communicate that will be understood.

Men need to learn how important intimacy is to women, and women need to learn how important sex is to men. Neither should with-hold from the other, I just think that sometimes men think that if they are giving their wife sex, then they are fulfilling her needs for intimacy, and that is often not the case. Most women in these cases are not purposfully withholding sex, they are searching for ways to regain their desire, and that can only be done with the help of their mate, if he will only stop focusing on what she SHOULD want and try to understand what she DOES want.

O2

376 posted on 05/15/2003 7:51:53 PM PDT by omegatoo
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