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Linda Bowles Committed Suicide
The Paradise Post ^ | May 15, 2003 | Rick Silva

Posted on 05/15/2003 7:59:03 AM PDT by SlickWillard

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To: sinkspur
I submit you and so called "mental health professionals" might be actually contributing to the problem. Chill out....
41 posted on 05/15/2003 9:09:30 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: widowithfoursons
There must have been other problems because suicide is the final negation, and if her husband was her only reason for living then she was, indeed, a sad person.

Don't try to fit the behaviors of depression into a logical world. It is not uncommon for suicidal depression to come as a shock to everyone around the individual. Although external events can be triggers, the depressive behavior gains a momentum of its own that often has little bearing to the trigger causes.

42 posted on 05/15/2003 9:12:42 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
And the obvious... there were neither antidepresants nor that most classic og symptoms of post 1870 secular humanist society, "mental health professionals" when Jesus was here last time, and when the Bible was finalized. It boils my blood to see the hypocrisy of so called "Christians" who are totally bought into today's secular humanist "system" lock stock and barrel and who defend this sick, modernist culture's most characteristic elements.
43 posted on 05/15/2003 9:14:10 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
"og" s/b "of".....
44 posted on 05/15/2003 9:14:55 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: SlickWillard
read later
45 posted on 05/15/2003 9:14:55 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: belmont_mark
Funny, I didn't know that suicide was unheard of prior to 1870...
46 posted on 05/15/2003 9:16:29 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: jlogajan
Yah (ala Katherine Hepburn in "On Golden Pond"), I know EXACTLY what you are saying. And you are right.
47 posted on 05/15/2003 9:17:54 AM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: jlogajan
I don't believe that (about placebos being as effective) ... but then I only believe the studies and statistics I make up myself.
48 posted on 05/15/2003 9:19:22 AM PDT by altura (been there, done that (but not well))
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To: GunRunner
Well in truth, I would argue that I, and many, many others, have elected not to "engage" with so called "mental health professionals" to deal with life. There are alternatives most of which are based on the demonstrated effective principles which were around for thousands of years prior to the secular humanist assaults on Judeo Christian society that occurred during the 1800s. How do you know, that if, in a past time of my own dark night of the soul, I had chosen to take the path of the "mental health professional" I would NOT have been deemed as "needing antidepressants." Heck from what I can tell based on the growth curve if anti depressant prescriptions, most of the world will be deemed to "need" them within the next 20 years!
49 posted on 05/15/2003 9:19:48 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
I felt the same way and did email her, telling her how sorry I felt for her loss. She emailed me back, thanking me for my prayers. I loved reading her. How tragic, she will be missed.
50 posted on 05/15/2003 9:22:56 AM PDT by sibb1213
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To: belmont_mark; jlogajan
I submit you and so called "mental health professionals" might be actually contributing to the problem. Chill out....

Actually, ignorant and misguided religious quacks, who advise deeply troubled and depressed people to just "trust in God" are the problem. I saw it in my own family. The more my aunt prayed the rosary, the more deranged she became.

After a week on anti-depressants, she was as stable as you and I.

Well, I'm not so sure about you.

51 posted on 05/15/2003 9:23:16 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: jlogajan
I've never heard of anyone overdosing on anti-depressants. It seems almost like an oxymoron.
52 posted on 05/15/2003 9:24:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: sinkspur; lavaroise
I personally blame you and your ilk for destroying the lives of many. For example, I have someone very dear to my heart who started on the downward spiral of "meds" during the early 1970s, starting with the evil Ritalin as a child. He is now beyond all hope and unlikely to ever lead a normal life. His brain has been permanently damaged by the drugs. I'll tell you what. Here's a thought experiment for you. A time machine sends the both of us 1000 years back in time (or, perhaps, if one is to believe what certain prophetical writers surmised as the initial 19th century assualts on Western core values started, ahead to the 22nd century!). Who will survive? You, or me?
53 posted on 05/15/2003 9:32:27 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: EggsAckley
Is it just me, or it this sentence unreadable?

I can read it OK.
It's just very jumbled.
Looks like the author tried to compress 3 different thoughts into one sentence, but you can still decipher the intent.

54 posted on 05/15/2003 9:32:43 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: jlogajan
Although external events can be triggers, the depressive behavior gains a momentum of its own that often has little bearing to the trigger causes.

This is so very true!!! "Making a mountain out of a molehill" to an extreme is characteristic of suicidal people. A relatively minor or temporary tragedy (something most of us would endure, suck up, and shake off) can lead a depressed person to commit suicide.

There is an excellent book, "No Time to Say Goodbye" written by a woman whose husband committed suicide & it focuses on dozens of case studies of suicidal persons & the "before and after" of their deaths. From this book, I learned......

---Most women commit/attempt suicide via drug overdoses whereas most men commit/attempt suicide with guns.

---White men over the age of 65 are the most likely to commit suicide.

---Most suicide victims don't leave a note--but even those who leave notes never really answer the bewildered questions which plague the family members forever.

---It's fairly common for a suicidal person to not show outward signs of severe despair/depression prior to committing suicide. In fact, once the decision to commit suicide has been made, a depressed person may perk up and seem more positive and cheerful.

---A suicidal person goes into a tunnel-visioned mode which keeps them from anticipating the consequences of what they're going to do. All they think about is how killing themselves is the only "solution" to their problem, period.

---A person determined to commit suicide will eventually succeed. There's nothing anyone can do to stop them-- short of committing them to a mental hospital where they can be kept in a straight jacket and be supervised 24/7.

55 posted on 05/15/2003 9:34:58 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: belmont_mark
I'll tell you what. Here's a thought experiment for you. A time machine sends the both of us 1000 years back in time (or, perhaps, if one is to believe what certain prophetical writers surmised as the initial 19th century assualts on Western core values started, ahead to the 22nd century!). Who will survive? You, or me?

TILT!!!

Get back to me when you decide whether we're going back in time, or ahead in time. Then, tell me what you're talking about.

Maybe you need some meds.

56 posted on 05/15/2003 9:54:35 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: EggsAckley; farmfriend; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; ScottinSacto
"She would show up on KSFO on occasion, and I found her to be a witty and inspirational woman."

Mrs. Wasp and I will never forget her story of how she was working in her flowerbed in the Sierra Foothills and while kneeling on a gopher hole... a rattlesnake bit her on the knee!!!

She had a terrible time but was so tough that she overcame that bite.

I loved her kindred conservative spirit! May she sit at the RIGHT hand of God forever!!! (total sadness)

57 posted on 05/15/2003 9:55:54 AM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm somewhat of a FreeRepublic FreeRadical toward Leftists and their Commonism!!!)
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To: Joe Brower; wardaddy
Damn...damn... So Sad. Just so, so sad.
58 posted on 05/15/2003 9:57:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: belmont_mark
For example, I have someone very dear to my heart who started on the downward spiral of "meds" during the early 1970s, starting with the evil Ritalin as a child.

Anti-depression drugs today are light years ahead of those in the 70s, which basically just made depressed people sleepy and let them get worse.

I don't believe Ritalin was around in the 70s.

59 posted on 05/15/2003 9:58:31 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: RomanCatholicProlifer
Was she a Catholic?

They used to carry her column in the Wanderer. This is so very sad.

SD

60 posted on 05/15/2003 10:00:20 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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