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U.S. Vigilantes Test Drones on Mexican Border
WashingtonPost.com ^ | Tuesday, May 13, 2003; 7:40 PM | Deborah Tedford

Posted on 05/13/2003 6:33:51 PM PDT by Reagan is King

Reuters Tuesday, May 13, 2003; 7:40 PM

By Deborah Tedford

MONTERREY, Mexico (Reuters) - An Arizona vigilante group is testing homemade "drone" reconnaissance planes on the U.S.-Mexican border to monitor illegal immigrants entering the United States in lonely desert areas.

Glenn Spencer, head of the American Border Patrol vigilante group, said on Tuesday the group has been testing two Unmanned Aerial Vehicles for about a month and plans to have a fleet making passes over the border by early July.

"We want to show how the application of this technology can solve the border problem," Spencer told Reuters.

Police and residents say they are aware of the drones, similar to unmanned U.S. military aircraft used in Iraq.

Hundreds of thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants cross the border in search of work every year. Three vigilante groups, some of them armed, have sprung up in Arizona in the last three years to monitor the border and hand over any illegal immigrants they find to U.S. Border Patrol agents.

The groups say U.S. authorities allow too many Mexicans to flout U.S. immigration law. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, some have also said unrestricted immigration poses an unacceptable security risk.

Area residents say the drones invade their privacy and foster poor cross-border relations.

"The Mexican populations along the border are indignant," said Miguel Escobar, a Mexican Foreign Ministry official based in Arizona.

Ray Borane, mayor of the border town of Douglas, Ariz., said the group's activities are racist.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: americanborderpatrol; border; domesticdrones; drones; dronesabp; dronesbp; dronesus; immigrantlist; mexican; patriots; vigilante
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To: Chemist_Geek
Thank you, Oh Thank you so very much for that helpful information.

Consular officials normally concern themselves with trade issues and visas from the host country to their own country. Among other things, but those are the principal ones. They normally do not agitate for local laws with local governments (this concept is enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits States from entering into compacts with foreign nations. That function is reserved specifically to the federal government; a consular official who tries to circumvent it should have his credentials revoked and be declared persona non grata), or show up at political rallies claiming to represent a segment of the "American" population, as if their title and station somehow have any status in American society and law.

Your point is that the word "based" merely means that a Mexican Consular official is stationed in Arizona, doing the ordinary business that Consuls do. My point is that Mexico now regards (and asserts) that they are tantamount to a shadow government, and the press in the United States appears to agree. And, apparently, in violation of the Constitution and diplomatic protocol, so do many state and local governments, who roll over and let the Mexican government dictate to them. It is the choice of words and their impact which shows this. The word "based" has a different connotation than "stationed", and the use of it is intentional, I believe.

Sorry to tell you this, but up until about 5 or 6 years ago, the Mexican government was invisible in Southern Arizona. If the Mexican Consul had said anything about our laws, he would have been ignored. People would have said...too bad, those are American laws, not Mexican. Who is he to involve himself? Once you're on this side of the line, the other side...doesn't matter. And that's the way it should be. And this jerk, who fancies himself to be a ruler of Americans, should be given 24 hours to leave the country.

81 posted on 05/14/2003 10:16:29 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator; Chemist_Geek; HiJinx; walkingman; The Coopster; Reagan is King; DLfromthedesert; ...
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Goals-2061 & Vision-2010 = AZTLAN?
Date Sunday, February 02 @ 20:03:10
Topic Immigration

These questions are rhetorical, of course.

You remember all the 'hoopla' concerning 'securing the southern border' ? And no one can figure out why the govt isn't doing anything about it?

Are you familiar with the Goals/Visions projects called "Transportation Corridors" ? They have been installed is several parts of the USA and there is even an evil afoot here in Hot Springs for a "Transportation and Economic Corridor" !! so???

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/ttc/ttc_home.htm go here and you can see part of what is planned for the "southern corridors" in Texas! Check out the maps in the right column!
Why do ALL of these different "Visions" say the exact same thing?? Whether it is California, Washington or Arkansas, it is the same goal using the same methods.

Who gets this southern corridor? Texas? Mexico? Other??

FINANCING OPTIONS on Corridor:

* Exclusive Development Agreement (this one is interesting! no?)
* Toll Equity
* Regional Mobility Authority
* Texas Mobility Fund
This article comes from Focus on Freedom
http://www.gohotsprings.com/focus/

The URL for this story is:
http://www.gohotsprings.com/focus/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=227

82 posted on 05/14/2003 11:12:13 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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It looks like they are looking to the future and pretty much have ceded Texas to Mexico. I really like the way our major highways link up with theirs for easy access to our border. NOT!

Is this named the Aztlan Project by any chance?


83 posted on 05/14/2003 11:23:41 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King
Actually, it's probably called the 'Aztlan Express' project.

I don't know if this website was the one posted, but this was mentioned about a year ago in the context of integrated FTAA access. So you're right, there isn't any intention of securing the Southern border. With FTAA visas soon to be a reality, and integrated air/land corridors (complete with trucks from Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, etc), it'll just be a free for all as everyone descends on us and never leave.

84 posted on 05/14/2003 11:55:06 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Reagan is King
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85 posted on 05/14/2003 2:07:47 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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