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To: Destro
When Edmond Ruffin pulled the lanyard on one of the columbiads off Morris Island at 4:30 A.M. on Friday April 12, 1861, the "First Shot" of the War between the States.

You have to look at the events leading up to April 12, 1861. On Dec. 19, 1860, a convention of delegates were called to St. Andrew’s Hall in Charleston, S.C., to vote on secession. On that day, many issues were brought to the floor to be settled before the actual vote could occur. Among these issues were what to do with the federal military installations in South Carolina, particularly Forts Moultrie and Sumter. It was agreed that all federal property would have to be handed over to the government of South Carolina. Finally, on Dec. 20, 1860, the delegates voted by a count of 169-0 in favor of secession, and the union between South Carolina and other states of the United States was "hereby dissolved."

The South fired the first shot on a fort that was agreed to be handed over to the government of South Carolina almost 4 moths prior to the "First Shot".
74 posted on 05/13/2003 7:19:55 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
Why don't you and your neighbors get together and vote that it is agreed that the federal government is to turn over some nearby instalation to you? Sounds simple, and legal too -- LOL!
86 posted on 05/13/2003 7:25:55 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: jgrubbs
It was agreed that all federal property would have to be handed over to the government of South Carolina.

The rebels were no better than common thieves.

South Carolina ceded all claims to Fort Sumter in 1841. The feds refused to build the fort unless clear title were conveyed.

It is a travesty to call these people heroes.

Walt

102 posted on 05/13/2003 7:39:49 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: jgrubbs
They had no authority to take back land that they had freely given under the union in that way.
155 posted on 05/13/2003 8:14:40 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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