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To: MHGinTN
Of course you're right.

Philosophically, rationality must rest on a basis of realism (which is to say that there is something real out there beyond our subjective opinions). Realism has pretty much vanished from our culture except among people with traditional religious views.

Aladair McIntyre offers a pretty good explanation of the mess we find ourselves in in his book "Whose Justice? Which Rationality?"

The reductio ad absurdum of modern relativism is enshrined in Planned Parenthood v. Casey: "At the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life." In other words, the universe is whatever you want it to be. I don't think so. This is nothing but drivvel.

http://www.abortionfacts.com/court_cases/casey/oconnor_1.asp
8 posted on 05/12/2003 8:43:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Philosophically, rationality must rest on a basis of realism (which is to say that there is something real out there beyond our subjective opinions). Realism has pretty much vanished from our culture except among people with traditional religious views.

The fact that a god exists doesnt mean that he wrote or dictated the Bible to anyone. Fact that there is a god doesnt mean that god is pro-life in the way you look at it. Face it, you are dealing with a matter of faith, not "realism" or rationality.

112 posted on 05/13/2003 6:53:23 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Cicero
The reductio ad absurdum of modern relativism is enshrined in Planned Parenthood v. Casey: "At the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life." In other words, the universe is whatever you want it to be. I don't think so. This is nothing but drivvel.

Ah, the "mystery of human life" argument. The ultimate Tower of Babel. We can be like God and define life in whatever way we choose. This line fairly screams tyranny, but tyranny of a different sort: tyranny of "tolerance" of any sort of behavior, with rage reserved only for those that wish to maintain some kind of standard.

138 posted on 05/13/2003 9:38:03 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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