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To: RLK
Whether in a dish or a human host, the embryo is an individual human being alive at the earliest age along the continuum we call a human lifetime.

A human lifetime is measured from birth to death. An embryo that is never born has no human lifetime.

It is amazing that those who makes such claims are depending on the testimony of science, the very same science that says, people begin when they are born.

Those who oppose abortion in this country do not have to have one. This is not true in countries where the power to determine whether or not abortion is allowed (or required) is in the hands of the government. Anyone who opposes abortion should do everything in their power to ensure the choice in this matter is never determined by government.

Hank

11 posted on 05/12/2003 8:44:59 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief
I have a Korean daughter-in-law. You are wrong that a lifetime begins at birth because to Koreans it begins at conception.
12 posted on 05/12/2003 8:48:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Those who oppose abortion in this country do not have to have one.

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Careful lest you create a society where nobody's life is worth a disposable damn.

18 posted on 05/12/2003 9:02:13 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Hank Kerchief
It is amazing that those who makes such claims are depending on the testimony of science, the very same science that says, people begin when they are born.

Sorry, Harry Browne isn't a scientist.

23 posted on 05/12/2003 9:09:25 PM PDT by WarSlut (Boycott Disney)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Hank, I've heard this too many times before. The government forbids you to ingest cocaine. Does that mean that it's likely to turn around and force you to ingest cocaine?

Women are in danger of forced abortions in China, where they are allowed to choose them, but not in Ireland where they are not. There are plenty of young girls in this country forced to have abortions by their parents, and it's easier because it is legal.

A society will not make anything compulsory unless it first makes it a good. And abortion is a now a good in this country.

Mrs VS

PS Do you really think a fetal human being, growing, taking in oxygen and nutrition and synthesizing molecules and growing and moving and reacting to stimuli and excreting waste and even learning in a simple way, is not alive in the scientific sense? What on earth is your scientific definition of life? Birth to death is a social definition.

30 posted on 05/12/2003 9:18:41 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Hank Kerchief
the very same science that says, people begin when they are born.

I challenge you to support this claim.

54 posted on 05/12/2003 10:08:24 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Hank Kerchief
Those who oppose abortion in this country do not have to have one.

I used to think, who cares if Democrats kill their young?

But during the 2000 Election while I was engaged in a lot of praying, the answer came... God cares.

God cares, Hank. What can I say? He cared about slavery and the Holocaust, and He heard the anguished cries of the Iraqis.

89 posted on 05/13/2003 12:26:33 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Hank Kerchief
the very same science that says, people begin when they are born.

Any scientist that would claim life begins at birth is no scientist at all. Life is measurable. There may be differences of opinion as to when a fetus becomes protected by his/her rights, but the definition of life is not often debated among true scientists.

133 posted on 05/13/2003 9:33:49 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Hank Kerchief
"Whether in a dish or a human host, the embryo is an individual human being alive at the earliest age along the continuum we call a human lifetime.

A human lifetime is measured from birth to death. An embryo that is never born has no human lifetime."

By you. By me, I measure human life from conception to death.

Also, science recognizes the start of an organism's life at conception. If this were not true, what would you call the life time from conception to birth? The heart is beating, the brain is working, the fetus is growing--why is this not life? It's DNA is always distinct from the mother. It's circulation system is distinct--why is this not life?

I've heard of people defining the fetus as not human, but I think this is the first time I've seen someone define it as not alive. Tell that to a woman who feels the baby kick inside of her.

"It is amazing that those who makes such claims are depending on the testimony of science, the very same science that says, people begin when they are born."

Name any scientific source that says a fetus is not alive. It is merely our law that measures life from birth. Science has always stated life starts from conception.

"Those who oppose abortion in this country do not have to have one. This is not true in countries where the power to determine whether or not abortion is allowed (or required) is in the hands of the government. Anyone who opposes abortion should do everything in their power to ensure the choice in this matter is never determined by government."

So, if the government determines not to enforce the law of murder, you're ok with that? The issue is whether a fetus or a zygote is human. Scientifically, the definition of a living human is 1. alive 2. human DNA. Both the zygote and fetus qualify.
157 posted on 05/13/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (All generalities are false, including this one.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
"It is amazing that those who makes such claims are depending on the testimony of science, the very same science that says, people begin when they are born."



Science can take no stand on when a human becomes a 'person'. This is a philosophical and legal question. Scientists do generally agree that human life begins at conception.
294 posted on 05/14/2003 12:48:37 PM PDT by nosofar
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