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Was the Pied Piper of Hamelin a child molester?
Straight Dope ^

Posted on 05/12/2003 2:15:16 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

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1 posted on 05/12/2003 2:15:16 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Billthedrill; Cyber Liberty; dead; Victoria Delsoul; Fiddlstix; Focault's Pendulum; glock rocks; ...
Interesting stuff
2 posted on 05/12/2003 2:16:00 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Bump to self.
3 posted on 05/12/2003 2:16:26 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Sir Gawain
I prefer my version.
4 posted on 05/12/2003 2:19:02 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: Sir Gawain
According to Manchester the piper was a psychopath and a pederast

Geez. Wonder what wanted all the rats for?

5 posted on 05/12/2003 2:19:15 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Sir Gawain
It wasn't me. I have an alibi.

Actually, I always thought it was a near-historical memory of events surrounding the Children's Crusade of 1213AD. Not sure just where I got that idea, though...probably just an accident of dating.

6 posted on 05/12/2003 2:21:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sir Gawain
Let me tell you the TRUE story of Goldilocks and the three bears.
7 posted on 05/12/2003 2:23:26 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: Sir Gawain
Rats were a definite problem for German towns...

Rats are a definite problem in every town in America. DemonRats, that is.

8 posted on 05/12/2003 2:26:36 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Resist the Leftist Media Brainwashing Machine)))
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To: Sir Gawain
Interesting. I just finished a novel by Ann Benson, half of which was based on a true character by the name of Gilles de Rais, a nobleman who fought alongside Joan de Arc but later confessed to killing over 200 children, mostly boys, after sodomizing them and disemboweling them. I was able to find his story in several places on line that corrorborate the major parts of her novel. He was executed by hanging after a full confession to avoid torture by the Inquisition (NO one expects the Inquisition!)
9 posted on 05/12/2003 2:28:11 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Sir Gawain; Jim Robinson
The moral of our story:

If a man...

...reduces the threat to you caused by 'Rats...

...PAY HIM! <|:)~

10 posted on 05/12/2003 2:31:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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er, PAY HIM!
11 posted on 05/12/2003 2:33:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Cachelot
According to Manchester the piper was a psychopath and a pederast

Today he would be reveared as a well educated man who is a victim of a society abducted by aliens and living on the repression of supressed memories of a past life !

12 posted on 05/12/2003 2:34:40 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (***If you decide not to choose you still have made a choice***)
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To: Sir Gawain
Man, I LOVE the Straight Dope!
13 posted on 05/12/2003 2:35:52 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Somehow I knew you would find this thread.
14 posted on 05/12/2003 2:37:04 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: Sir Gawain
There's a great stained glass window of the Pied Piper at the Armstrong Browning Library at Baylor. I saw it when I gave a lecture there. Here's a rather tiny picture of it:


15 posted on 05/12/2003 2:38:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"There was a bounty on dead rats in some German town and rat tails briefly became a form of urban currency."

Wonder if that is the origin of the saying, "I don't give a rat's a$$"?

I don't give a "damm" is about a coin, isn't it?

16 posted on 05/12/2003 2:40:13 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Spyder
True story. Gilles de Rais was the "Marquis de Sade", from whence we get our modern word "sadism", for sexual cruelty. This guy did deserve all the torture the Inqusition could muster - too bad they gave him the easy out.
17 posted on 05/12/2003 2:40:36 PM PDT by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: Sir Gawain
Of course I would - it's for the children, after all!
18 posted on 05/12/2003 2:44:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Sir Gawain
I like the notion that the historical persons behind the Pied Piper legend were real estate promoters.

;^)
19 posted on 05/12/2003 2:49:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: egarvue
Gilles de Rais was the "Marquis de Sade"

Check again - the sources I find separate them by several centuries. I did find a few comments that de Rais was also known as "Bluebeard."

20 posted on 05/12/2003 2:56:37 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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