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Piestewa Peak controversy has legislative fallout (Napolitano)
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | May 7, 2003 | Howard Fischer - Capitol Media Services

Posted on 05/12/2003 8:00:31 AM PDT by madfly

PHOENIX -- State lawmakers are moving to give members of boards and commissions the same protections they have against unfair outside pressure.

Sen. Dean Martin, R-Phoenix, is introducing legislation today to make it a crime for anyone to improperly seek to influence the vote of any board member by contacting that person's regular employer. Violators would be guilty of a misdemeanor, facing six months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

Martin admits his legislation is in direct response to the actions of Mario Diaz, a top aide to Gov. Janet Napolitano.

Diaz, seeking to get the state Board on Geographic and Historic Names to approve renaming Squaw Peak, was pressuring board Chairman Tim Norton to put the measure on the board's agenda or resign from the unpaid position if he would not.

But Diaz did more than that. Diaz also called Sil Ontiveros, an assistant Phoenix police chief to whom Norton reports in his regular paying day job.

"Mario wanted us to encourage Tim to change his position," confirmed Andy Anderson, who heads the police department's public information unit. Anderson said the department refused to get involved.

Martin said he would have thought it unnecessary to tell people not to try to pressure board members by going to their employer.

"But now we have to make it perfectly obvious this is improper behavior," he said.

"Why would anybody give up their time to serve on mostly unpaid boards and commissions when you could possibly have your own employment, your livelihood threatened?" he asked. "Our whole system starts breaking if this type of activity persists."

Martin's legislation is patterned after existing law which makes it a crime to pressure legislators to vote a certain way by contacting their private employers. That law was enacted in 1974 after lawmakers, most of whom hold outside jobs, complained about the practice.

Napolitano won't try to block the bill.

"If the Legislature decrees this measure appropriate, the governor will not stand in the way," said Kris Mayes, the governor's press aide.

Because any law would be prospective only Diaz could not be prosecuted for his actions last month.

Mayes said Napolitano has acknowledged that what Diaz did was "a mistake" and that the governor "has accepted responsibility for it." But the governor has refused to say how she intended to discipline him, if at all.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: influence; mariodiaz; mistake; napolitano; piestewapeak; pressure; squawpeak
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To: marajade
Please provide the proof...:

You keep asking for the proof... can't you see it for yourself? California was Reagan territory, it is now completely controlled by democrats and 35 billion dollars in debt. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

And NY isn't much better either. We're loaded with illegal aliens too.

41 posted on 05/12/2003 1:09:19 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Again illegal aliens aren't allowed to vote by law... San Diego is still conservative as is Oregon and Nevada... Please provide the proof... this will be my last post to you...
42 posted on 05/12/2003 1:11:17 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"California was Reagan territory, it is now completely controlled by democrats and 35 billion dollars in debt."

This isn't evidence... AZ is a billion dollars in debt in fiscal year 04 out of a 6.2 billion dollar budget... When the debt incurred the state house, state senate, and governorship were all controlled by Republicans...
43 posted on 05/12/2003 1:13:00 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Arizona is about 25% Hispanic now. In 25 years it will approach 50%. You can put the 3rd ID on the border and you can't seal it. We are going to have to deal with it.

The immigrant vote is up for grabs, especially in Arizona. If it becomes us vs them, we lose. They will gravitate toward existing splits in American society as they increase in prosperity. If we can paint a better picture of the future as a free society they will follow. If we can't, we deserve to lose.

I am more afraid of a New York socialist than a Mexican one.

44 posted on 05/12/2003 1:13:21 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Doesn't matter... again Bush got 50% of the Hispanic vote and younger Hispanics are trending Republican...
45 posted on 05/12/2003 1:14:33 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
No this is going to be my last post to you because I provided proof in post #36 illegals are voting. You have chosen to ignore the facts so there's no point going on about it with you any longer.
46 posted on 05/12/2003 1:17:42 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Illegals in CA; not in AZ which the point of this article...
47 posted on 05/12/2003 1:18:24 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Illegals in CA; not in AZ which the point of this article...

Oh I see, the illegals in California are bad, the ones in Arizona are good.

How long do you think it's going to be before the Republicans cave and give an amnesty to all these lawbreakers? And they will vote democratic, and so will their relatives when they come here. Now I can easily google a chart that shows Hispanic voting trends and their party of choice, but why bother, you won't read it anyway?

48 posted on 05/12/2003 1:23:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Did Dornan ever prove their was fraud? I don't think he did... and I do believe there was a congressional investigation as well and it didn't turn up anything either...
49 posted on 05/12/2003 1:25:12 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
NV still elects conservatives, so does Oregon...

Only until they're outnumbered. I lived 8 years in a heavily Hispanic neighborhood in NJ. Other than the Cubanos...they ain't votin pubbin any time soon sister. Ain't gonna happen. I got harassed at my polling place for merely *registering* as a pubbie. Illegal? heck yeah. Do something about it? Ya wanna wear concrete shoes?

50 posted on 05/12/2003 1:49:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: marajade
W only got ~35% of the Hispanic vote nationwide.
51 posted on 05/12/2003 1:50:32 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: marajade
younger Hispanics are trending Republican...

Proof please, you got a chart, statistics? I'd like to see that information for myself.

52 posted on 05/12/2003 1:54:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I am more afraid of a New York socialist than a Mexican one.

I haved lived around both. There's not a bugs behind difference in their bottom line. None. Punish the successful. Gun control. Etc. A Marxist is a Marxist is a Marxist. Only the color of their skin is different. BOHICA taxpayers! (Mexico is screwed up for a reason...you can't blame the guys on the top exclusively. They only do what the peasants allow them...There are elections down there)

53 posted on 05/12/2003 1:54:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DLfromthedesert
I remember ol Ev quite well. He had many good ideas, but he also flat did not know when to shut up or how to properly phrase issues. Hyperbole is good for car salesmen, not governors.
54 posted on 05/12/2003 2:14:16 PM PDT by LS
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To: LS
I agree 100 %.He is a sweet soul, but still lived in another era, and had no clue!!
55 posted on 05/12/2003 4:55:30 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: MARTIAL MONK
The problem isn't a strong Democratic Party, it is a lack of leadership on the part of Republicans.

Worth repeating.

The republicans in the state legislature have needed to get their acts together for a long time. I'm afraid they're losing their grips, if they ever had one, that is.

56 posted on 05/12/2003 5:52:39 PM PDT by kstewskis ("political correctness is intellectual terrorism...." Mel Gibson)
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To: madfly
"Hey Janet, the ends do not justify the means!"

They always do to a 'feeling' dem. A thinking conservative always analyses facts and arrives at a logical solution. Dems merely feel how something should "look" or "sound".

Has anyone noticed that all, ALL of Jan's actions so far are reactionary to play to feelings. Not one damn substantive conclusion to date.

And I suspect we have 3 1/2 years of the same coming!

57 posted on 05/12/2003 5:55:54 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: marajade
Again illegal aliens aren't allowed to vote by law...

lol, there is the problem, it's your comment. When do illegal aliens actually follow the law? I'd reword your statement.

58 posted on 05/12/2003 6:01:47 PM PDT by kstewskis ("political correctness is intellectual terrorism...." Mel Gibson)
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To: kstewskis
Prove it... I haven't heard of any ballot fraud in AZ...
59 posted on 05/12/2003 6:08:27 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Exactly. The Hispanic vote is in play. In Bush's speech this morning I think every name he mentioned was Hispanic. He's in the game.

If the only Mexicans an Arizona Republican sees is by peering through the fence at his gated community we are in big trouble. Freedom is big, rough and friendly. It comes in all skin colors and languages. A "buenos dias" and a handshake is worth more to a Mexican because it signifies acceptance. We can't run around calling them vermin and expect their vote.

60 posted on 05/12/2003 6:26:24 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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