"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
--2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution
Another proposed infringement of the Second Amendment in New York.
To: *bang_list
People are concerned about the ease by which people can buy and use guns, Vallone said. Hopefully, this is something that will ensure that the people who should own guns do, and those who should not own them have a hard time using them. Your hope is in vain. This is another feel good do nothing regulation that will only be heaped upon the peaceful citizen.
2 posted on
05/12/2003 2:37:31 AM PDT by
2nd_Amendment_Defender
("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Which is meaningless. You can't even own a gun legally in New York City, so why would you need ammo? This will create a huge black market in ammo in the New York State area.
3 posted on
05/12/2003 2:42:21 AM PDT by
goldstategop
( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Sanders inspiration in drafting the legislation came from Cambria Heights resident Elizabeth Goldsmith,...
Apparently we're no longer citizens, just "residents" sometimes "individuals" - i.e. we just live here - renting, as it were, our rapidly decreasing freedoms.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Another proposed infringement of the Second Amendment in New York. New Yorkers like the jackboot of government on their faces or they'd move. What's worse because they're such cowards that they hate, fear, and envy those of us who still retian a little freedom, they want to export their brand of totalitarianism to the other states. Look at who they overwhelmingly elected as their senators - Hitlary and upChuckie Schemer. Two Marxist/Nazis who tirelessly work to enslave the rest of us. (If you love NY take I95 north)
7 posted on
05/12/2003 4:15:39 AM PDT by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Goldsmith grew up in rural Maryland, a place like the western frontier, she said, where hunting with guns was a legitimate source of food and sport for many people. But her opinion of firearms began to change in 1988, when her 19-year-old godson, Nathaniel Rowe, was shot and killed in Washington, D.C. Impossible Washingto DC at the time had strict laws against the possession of firearms by any but Law Ebnforcement Officers.
8 posted on
05/12/2003 5:09:32 AM PDT by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
But her opinion of firearms began to change in 1988, when her 19-year-old godson, Nathaniel Rowe, was shot and killed in Washington, D.C. Then, in 1994, she lost another godson to guns, this time much closer to home. Curtis Purnell Williams, 27, was working as a security officer at a nightclub in Jamaica when a disruptive guest who was asked to leave responded by shooting Purnell 17 times.
Notice that both places where these two young men were killed have drakonian gun control laws. It is virtualy impossible for ordinary people to legally own guns in either Jamaica or Washington, D.C.
9 posted on
05/12/2003 5:11:21 AM PDT by
marktwain
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
"The popular National Rifle Association defense Guns dont kill people, people kill people leaves out a key technicality: its the bullets that do the killing."
There they go again! It's not the Guns or the Bullets --People kill other people!!
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
To my knowledge, even in the benighted State of New York, it is legal to purchase ammunition by fax, telephone, telegraph, email, internet, carrier pigeon, smoke signal, mental telepathy, and snail mail.
Delivered to your door by your friendly UPS man.
Now I live in CA, so I buy all my ammo from out of state. Are things different in NY?
--Boris
18 posted on
05/12/2003 7:41:02 AM PDT by
boris
(Education is always painful; pain is always educational)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
...co-sponsored by Councilman Peter Vallone Jr. (D-Astoria),...Isn't this the same idiot who proposed that NYC secede from the state?
22 posted on
05/12/2003 12:31:26 PM PDT by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
As my uber-liberal professor stated very clearly, the best way to overturn a law is to find a single exception to be recognized, then expand the number of exceptions until that law is efgfectively destroyed. This is what they are doing to repeal the Second Amendment without a Constitutional Convention (and subsequent revolt). Persons formerly convicted of violent felonies was the exception and made it acceptable to seeraly infringe on people's 2A rights... and now it is everyone. First it was guns that were "too powerful", shot "too fast", held "too many rounds", then anything that shoots a projectile. Now it is the projectiles themselves.
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
By the way, I am thinking about reactivating my Law School's Second Amendment Society. Do any FReepers out there have any ideas, advice, or experience that might help me out? Thanks!
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
New Yorkers need to do something. Meanwhile, this should be good for business in other states since it will send New Yorkers to gunshows in the other states for ammo. Somebody might mention this to the NY chamber of commerce.
27 posted on
05/13/2003 5:50:09 AM PDT by
merak
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
New Yorkers need to do something. Meanwhile, this should be good for business in other states since it will send New Yorkers to gunshows in the other states for ammo. Somebody might mention this to the NY chamber of commerce.
28 posted on
05/13/2003 5:51:00 AM PDT by
merak
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I live in the mountains and there are rocks all over the place. There's even signs along the roads that state,
"Watch Out For Falling Rock". We just heard how dangerous rocks are especially in Texas. Then there's bathtubs...
knives...pillows... Oh,No! Does this mean I have to give
up my favorite pillow,too? (sarcasm)
30 posted on
05/13/2003 6:18:57 AM PDT by
John Doe #1
(DAV Life Member)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
License my a$$.
You don't have to buy a license to exercise freedom of speech or religion. You don't have to buy a license to protect yourself against unlawful search and seizure or self-incrimination. You don't have to buy a license to vote.
What gives any government the power to license Second Amendment rights?
31 posted on
05/13/2003 6:22:57 AM PDT by
CholeraJoe
(Standing tough under Stars and Stripes)
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