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U.S. Weapons Hunters Hindered in Iraq. (Operating Without Translators or Help From Scientists)
ABC News ^ | May 11, 2003 | AP

Posted on 05/11/2003 7:17:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion

CAMP DOHA, Kuwait May 11 — U.S. weapons hunters empty-handed after seven weeks of field work are still operating without translators, have had almost no contact with Iraqi scientists and can't tell what's missing from looted sites where suspected weapons of mass destruction were thought to be hidden.

Some of the problems are logistical. Others seem to be the result of limited manpower and expertise. In interviews with The Associated Press, military planners involved in the search said they were working to solve them.

While the basic work structure will continue, they said, several elements are expected to improve now that former U.N. inspectors are joining the operation and its command is switching to the Pentagon.

Experts say the changes are desperately needed if the Bush administration is to prove Iraq had the chemical or biological weapons the White House said it went to war to destroy.

"I can't imagine how they could get much accomplished without interpreters and translators, this is basic stuff," said Jonathan Tucker, a former U.N. inspector and a bioweapons expert with the U.S. Institute for Peace.

The current teams also haven't been tagging or cataloguing sites nearly all of which were looted by the time the teams arrived. In every case, they have been unable to determine what, if anything, might have been taken at any given time.

Lt. Col. Michael Slifka, an arms control expert who helped put together the Site Survey Teams, said the teams were conceived to be rapidly sent to suspicious sites. Securing those locations from theft wasn't considered in advance, he said.

"I certainly didn't expect the Iraqi populace to go in to places like this and loot things."

Several of the most sensitive sites are being guarded by U.S. troops, but their presence is likely making the areas appear even more valuable. There are reports of civilians finding back ways into the sites to remove more items.

Some help is expected next month when the weapons teams, which have been operating under the command of field artillery Col. Richard McPhee, are folded into the Iraq Survey Group a new, Pentagon-led team of some 2,000 people charged with investigating everything from potential war crimes committed by Saddam Hussein's regime to alleged terrorist connections with al-Qaida.

But the change in command will not mean beefing up the size of the search teams. In fact, two officials said the field teams under pressure from Washington and overburdened by a mammoth list of suspected weapons sites could become smaller.

Currently there are five operational Site Survey Teams staffed by a small number of weapons experts, soldiers and Special Forces who handle initial assessment missions. Any potential finds are analyzed by one of two Mobile Exploitation Teams.

None of the teams were assigned translators. Slifka said they were trying to correct that but that expanding the overall staff size wouldn't be necessary if Iraqis come forward with key information, as Washington hopes they will.

"If we get the cooperation of the Iraqis then we're probably going to be in good shape," Slifka said at Camp Doha, Kuwait, a dusty desert base that was command center for land forces during the Iraq war.

But that cooperation hasn't been forthcoming.

Few scientists have offered information, and U.S. officials have said even senior Iraqis in custody are continuing to insist the country wasn't secretly developing weapons of mass destruction in recent years.

Slifka could think of only one example in which an Iraqi scientist had led a team to an area where materials for a weapons program were said to have been buried or destroyed. But the site yielded no conclusive evidence and much of the scientist's claims have not been verified.

Some team members and even officials back in Washington have begun to doubt actual weapons will be found. Instead they now talk of finding evidence of infrastructure that could have been used to quickly produce unconventional weapons.

Still, Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Sunday that weapons of mass destruction may still be in the hands of Iraqi special units and could be used against coalition forces.

"Were they full-deployed and could they have been brought to bear on us, or are they still perhaps out there somewhere in some sort of bunker and could have been used?" Myers said in Qatar during a tour of the Persian Gulf. "We are trying to run that one to the ground."

McPhee's 75th Exploitation Task Force, which is headed home once the survey group sets up, began with a list of 900 suspect sites, 90 of them deemed high-priority. Of the top sites, 75 have been examined, McPhee said Thursday.

Slifka said each team is currently visiting one site a day far fewer on average than U.N. teams conducted during their stint which began in late November and ended shortly before the war began March 20.

Even as the United States was drafting the U.N. resolution last fall that sent chief U.N. inspector Hans Blix and his teams back to Iraq, it was already planning for their failure, Slifka said.

"There was a concern that the Iraqis would be grudgingly compliant and that as a result the U.N. would eventually pull out and report that the Iraqis were not being completely compliant and forthcoming and that we would then need a capability of our own to try and find the Iraqi WMD program."

Still, a number of American and British weapons experts who served on the previous U.N. inspection regime not led by Blix are being included on the U.S. teams. The former inspectors know many within Iraq's scientific and military community and are familiar with years of evidence and intelligence gathered during the 1990s.

The United States provided Blix with some intelligence which didn't yield results. The best leads, however, were followed up unsuccessfully by the 75th XTF.

Even so, Slifka said he wouldn't be disappointed if the teams didn't find anything. Just understanding the roots of Saddam's efforts something never fully achieved by the U.N. teams would be an accomplishment in itself.

"Eventually we'll put some sort of arms control measures in place, set up monitoring and teach a new Iraqi government how to do it themselves."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 75thetf; biological; chemical; iraq; nuclear; postwariraq; search; sitesurveyteams; weapons; wmd
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I think this article give more details than others, about what the problems are and why haven't they found any WMD.

But stay tuned, as they work out the logistical problems, get some help from scientists and get translators so they can communicate with Iraqis.

1 posted on 05/11/2003 7:18:00 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Oddly enough they were able to find and secure the oil fields and the Oil Ministry. Too bad about the museums and our world image.
2 posted on 05/11/2003 7:21:18 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
"Oddly enough they were able to find and secure the oil fields and the Oil Ministry. Too bad about the museums and our world image. "
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Where have you been, it turned out the priceless artifacts were NOT looted, they were put into vaults from where they have been recovered, they were never missing. Only about 25-40 actual pieces are missing and it is not known when they were taken, but certainly not by "random looters" because the museum curators took the good pieces and put them into vaults weeks before the war started. There goes another leftists whine, down the tubes.
3 posted on 05/11/2003 7:24:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Oddly enough they were able to find and secure the oil fields and the Oil Ministry. Too bad about the museums and our world image.

The Media lied about much of that!
Especially the Museum!

4 posted on 05/11/2003 7:26:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (President Bush looks like a REAL Commander in Chief in his Flight Suit!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Was our first priority securing the oil fields or the museums?
5 posted on 05/11/2003 7:31:46 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How many lies did our own government use to gain support for the war? Of course the Media were willing accomplices.
6 posted on 05/11/2003 7:34:12 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: UnBlinkingEye
We went to war to deter the threat of fanatical Arabist terrorism in the US. Very simple. All other reasons and explanations are secondary.
7 posted on 05/11/2003 7:39:08 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: UnBlinkingEye
ZOT?
8 posted on 05/11/2003 7:42:53 PM PDT by Svenge
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To: JmyBryan
Why is their any threat of terrorism in the U.S.?

Do you think the threat will be diminished by a massive assault on a weak nation that has already been under attack, and lost hundreds of thousands of lives due to sanctions we have imposed?

10 posted on 05/11/2003 7:47:51 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: proudmary
What do I tell my grandson ?

That peace in the Middle East commenced in the spring of '03.

11 posted on 05/11/2003 7:49:20 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article,...
......."I certainly didn't expect the Iraqi populace to go in to places like this and loot things."

The 'WMD' stash,...is to be considered as 'one-man's-treasure'.

The 'WMD' treasure would be expected to be found with/among 'other'....treasures.

One man's treasure is another man's garbage/trash dump!

How/what is a 'valued' value?

12 posted on 05/11/2003 7:50:53 PM PDT by maestro
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To: proudmary
What do I tell my grandson ?

Hopefully that this crystalized American public opinion to return to Constitutional government and that in the next election we voted these crooks out. All of them.

13 posted on 05/11/2003 7:55:06 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: proudmary
(1) Iraq was destroyed by Saddam and Euro enablers.

(2) We un-destroyed it. AKA "Libertated".

(3) They were working on WMD, had some, and more importantly they showed inclinations towards their use, and indeed have used them.

(4) We are not trying to "save the world" -- we are required to protect ourselves. In Afghanistan, in Yemen, in Pakistan, and in Iraq we have taken steps small and big to protect ourselves.

(5) That oil was being used to fund terror in the world and desolation of the people of Iraq. Better Harborton own the fields, the oil and the profit. Harborton isn't in business of killing and impoverishing for the sake of power. Saddam was. The Saudi's -- they still are. Hooray for US Oil Barons! They are gentleman and scholars compared to the terror-breeding rats who own and profit many thrid world fields.

Oh and don't be such a Zot attracting bug, eh?

14 posted on 05/11/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by bvw
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Yes.
15 posted on 05/11/2003 7:57:12 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: FairOpinion
I wouldn't believe anything from ABC. They always put the most negative spin on anything they say or print.
16 posted on 05/11/2003 7:57:51 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: proudmary
Tell him we liberated a country from a man who killed 2 million of his own people, had torture chambers, a secret police that cut out the tongues of people who spoke out against saddam, and stole the people's money in an 'oil-for-palaces' program, that also paid off terrrorist accomplices ... but it was all a big mistake and we are really sorry and we hope to give the country back to the thugs and the dictator because the WMD chemicals were flushed into the river the day before we took over baghdad.

I mean, other that the muclear weapons research facilities, the mobile bio weapons labs, the rockets that are outside UN distance limits, the warheads with marking of use with chemical weapons, the scientist who said they destroyed much weapons days before the attacks, the poisoning in the euphrates river, the scores of atropine finds, the terrorist camps that including instructions on chemical weapons attacks, ... other than THAT, there is absolutely NO evidence of WMDs in Iraq!

"I am very afraid we destroyed a country" oh dear, you really drank the kool aid didnt you?
Saddam destroyed that country long long ago. We have saved it.
17 posted on 05/11/2003 7:58:15 PM PDT by WOSG (Free Iraq! Free Cuba, North Korea, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Tibet, China...)
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Do you think the threat will be diminished by a massive assault on a weak nation that has already been under attack, and lost hundreds of thousands of lives due to sanctions we have imposed?

How can someone believe the sanctions on Iraq killed ANYBODY and have the brainpower to operate a computer?

So if all those people were starving to death how did all those palaces get built under sanctions?

18 posted on 05/11/2003 7:58:27 PM PDT by John H K
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Hopefully that this crystalized American public opinion to return to Constitutional government and that in the next election we voted these crooks out. All of them.

And put in whom?

Pat Buchanan?
Hillary Clinton?
Noam Chomsky?
David Duke?
Lyndon LaRouche?

Just what is your agenda?

19 posted on 05/11/2003 8:00:04 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: bvw
Which country in the Middle East is concealing the most (true) Weapons of Mass Destruction?
20 posted on 05/11/2003 8:02:27 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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