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IBM to unearth T-Rex mainframe
CNet.com ^ | 05/09/03 | Stephen Shankland

Posted on 05/11/2003 2:56:47 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88

update IBM will announce its next-generation mainframe Tuesday, sources said. The system, called the z990 and code-named T-Rex, will spearhead Big Blue's effort to ensure the lineage isn't doomed to extinction. The machine will come with 32 processors initially, with a 48-processor version by the end of 2003 and a 64-processor version in 2004, said Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff. By comparison, IBM's current top-end z900 mainframe, introduced in 2000, has 16 processors.

In addition, the company is expected to announce that the mainframe can be subdivided into several independent partitions. Initially, the system will support as many as 15 partitions of the z/OS operating system, with 30 coming in October and 60 in mid-2004.

IBM plans to announce the z990 at an event in San Francisco on Tuesday, where the mainframe will share the stage with announcements from IBM's Global Services division. IBM declined to comment for this story, but the company briefed several analysts during a presentation last week.

Mainframes, powerful but pricey business computing systems that are under fierce competition from Unix and more recently Windows servers, set the standard for resistance to crashes and the ability to juggle many computing tasks simultaneously. But because mainframes aren't mainstream, advocates have had to work hard to keep them abreast of current computing trends such as Internet technology.

Competitors for years have derided mainframes, with a lineage extending back several decades, as obsolete dinosaurs. But with aggressive code names such as T-Rex for the z990 and Raptor for the lower-priced z800 released in 2002, IBM seems to be trying to steer the imagery to its own advantage.

Mainframes are "enjoying a bit of a renaissance at IBM," Haff said. The systems, while powerful, "still require pretty specialized skill sets (and) are still pretty expensive per unit performance," he said.

While average consumers don't buy mainframes--with prices that can stretch well into the millions of dollars--they ultimately bear the cost of such systems when buying products from companies such as tire manufacturer and z900 user Bridgestone.

IBM dominates the market for mainframes, and many would-be competitors such as Amdahl and Hitachi have left the market to Big Blue. Unisys continues to put up a fight and plans to introduce a new mainframe line on May 19 geared for the comparatively modern Web services tasks, the company said.

IBM continues to push hard to bring one very modern part of the computing world, Linux, to the mainframe. Versions of Linux from Red Hat and SuSE run on the mainframe, though Red Hat's support will improve with the coming Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0, due this fall.

Linux lets IBM more easily offer modern software on its mainframes. However, Linux software still must be rebuilt for the mainframe's processors before it will run.

The new z990, available in June, is expected to run Linux tasks as much as 55 percent faster than the z900. That's significant, given that 17 percent of the company's mainframe revenue in 2002 stemmed from mainframes.

Software: The key to growth? Indeed, software improvements are one of the major changes coming with the new mainframe, RedMonk analyst James Governor said.

IBM is including more data management software with the z990, a move that puts pressure on mainframe software sellers, Governor said. "IBM is aggressively trying to kick out Computer Associates, Compuware and BMC, by providing good enough functionality at about half the price," Governor said.

The move addresses one of the barriers to growth of mainframe use, the high software cost, he added. "It's been third-party tools that have prevented the growth of the platform in many cases," Governor said.

And IBM is trying to make mainframe management less arcane, with tools that work the same for several IBM server lines, Governor said.

The z990 can run modern software. It's certified to run version 1.3 of Java 2 Enterprise Edition, Governor said, and includes support for Web services standards that are part of J2EE 1.4, such as SOAP (Simple Object Access Protocol) and UDDI (Universal Description, Discovery and Integration).

The new mainframe will have quadruple the input-output (I/O) ability of its predecessor, important for maintaining a stronghold for tasks such as extracting information from databases. "You see mainframes shining at tasks where...there is a huge amount of I/O," Haff said.

The plan to support as many as 64 processors in the z990 has a caveat, however: A single operating system can't always take advantage of all the processors. When the 48-processor version arrives, the maximum partition size for a single copy of the operating system will be 32 processors, and when the 64-processor model arrives, the maximum partition size will be 48 processors, Haff said.

And as previously reported, the new mainframe will come with "on-off capacity-on-demand" features, which will let customers rent extra processing power temporarily. IBM made the debut of the on-off feature with its pSeries Unix servers this week.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computers; ibm; mainframe; technology
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Is this doomed to become another AS400, or is this actually a worthy mainframe????
1 posted on 05/11/2003 2:56:47 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88
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Whatcha think???

2 posted on 05/11/2003 2:57:40 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Technology is a wonderful thing when it works!!!!)
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Posted last night here already with 33 comments.
3 posted on 05/11/2003 2:59:57 PM PDT by BullDog108 (Feles mala! Cur cista non uteris? Stramentum novum in ea posui.)
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Well dangit...I searched keywords for "t-rex" and nothing came up.
4 posted on 05/11/2003 3:09:46 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (Technology is a wonderful thing when it works!!!!)
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What's the point of a Linix mainframe. Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a Unix server like Sun?
5 posted on 05/11/2003 4:40:51 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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I don't know...I'm an above average end user who went through the AS400 nightmare....I just keep having DeJavus
6 posted on 05/11/2003 5:31:34 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (It's a numbers game!)
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Sun requires its own software. Linux on IBM allows for an enormous amount of multi-tasking. I am not an expert, but this looks promising for IBM.
7 posted on 05/11/2003 5:49:18 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the poorest of the poor - the unborn.)
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Linux on IBM allows for an enormous amount of multi-tasking.

I read somewhere that Linix won't scale up to as many processors as Sun Unix or Silcon Graphics Irix.

8 posted on 05/11/2003 6:57:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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The AS400 was not a mainframe. It was a minicomputer designed to compete with DEC Vax's and PDP's. But like an IBM mainframe it ran COBOL and DB2. It was simply that the network is the natural enemy of the minicomputer.

It seems to me that the logic of running Linux on the IBM is the sheer fact that it is impossible to get young programmers to make any career investment in learning COBOL and JCL. Do any computer schools these days still teach MVS or IBM 360/Assembler ? People want skills as portable as possible not limited to a ghetto of the computing world. Old legacy mainframe programmers are a dying breed.

The trick is, someone has to come up with a COBOL compiler for Linux. There is a mountain of old COBOL code out there that still has to be supported (like the stuff that calculates your social security, for instance ?). And it will never go away. There will always be huge institutions that need to process enormous amounts of information with 24/7 reliability and ironclad security. That is what mainframes do.
9 posted on 05/11/2003 8:34:50 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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People want skills as portable as possible not limited to a ghetto of the computing world

*cute* phrase...I assume you are talking about the mock *geeks* that just know MCSE and networking???

I know those that can actually program COBOL & MVS are definitely a dying breed, I know a few older people that can do it. They can command a top $$$ for those that still have "monsters in the basement" that need servicing & programming skills.

I guess my ignorance in programming shows through...again, I am just an above average end user that can design pre-packaged databases (access, filemaker & Act) and use most software packages to their fullest capablities as I take the initiative to really learn them. I can also do some networking & hardware trouble shooting...but I'm not a professional geek...I just pretend to be one at home {G}

10 posted on 05/11/2003 8:44:39 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (I always thought a C+ was a bad grade!)
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The trick is, someone has to come up with a COBOL compiler for Linux.

Wouldn't it be better to cross-compile to new C or Java code? I think I read somewhere about a program that takes original COBOL code, analyzes how various parts of the code interact with each other and creates new source code in C with documentation. Supposedly it can even recognize dead code that is no longer referenced and delete it from the new source code.

11 posted on 05/11/2003 8:50:05 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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First you have to ramp up the existing legacy support staff. Converting everything to C means, essentially, a whole new system to learn for them. It would be a matter of phasing in the C code when the legacy maintainence people retire.

Around 1980 a huge number of mainframe programmers lost their careers and had to find something else to do for a living. They were never replaced.
12 posted on 05/12/2003 2:23:48 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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Thanks for the information. I keep seeing out of work mainframe guys - or soon to be out of work guys.
13 posted on 05/12/2003 6:16:24 AM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the poorest of the poor - the unborn.)
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To: Tokhtamish
We run COBOL on unix.
14 posted on 05/12/2003 6:17:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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Was the AS400 a failure? I thought it was a popular computer.
15 posted on 05/12/2003 6:24:48 AM PDT by The FRugitive
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One of the biggest problems is the lack of original source code...
16 posted on 05/12/2003 6:25:23 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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What's the point of a Linix mainframe. Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a Unix server like Sun?

Yes, for one or a few. But consider the economies of scale if you wanted a few hundred or a few thousand. It is cheaper to maintain one large machine than hundreds or thousands of smaller ones.

17 posted on 05/12/2003 6:31:15 AM PDT by NCjim
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It was popular, but soon became antiquated and cost companies hundreds of thousands of dollars as the *pool* of people that could fix/update them dwindled.
18 posted on 05/12/2003 6:34:21 AM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (It's just another manic monday)
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To: Tokhtamish
Apparently, you can already get COBOL on the mainframe running on Linux. And here is a press release on the same product.
19 posted on 05/12/2003 8:51:16 AM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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We run COBOL on unix.

Fools.

If it ain't Java under Linux, or C# under XP, you ain't got no system.

My rates are competative. I will help you get into the 21st century.

20 posted on 05/12/2003 9:51:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WMD-40: Lube your nukes)
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