Arizona Governor visits a controversial Tucson church

KVOA-TV - Tucson ^ | 5/10/03

[Tancredo Fan]

5/10/03 -- KVOA -- Tucson, Arizona

Governor Janet Napolitano surprised many by visiting a controversial church. St. John's just started a new program that aids illegal immigrants. Many wonder how this is legal?

Bishop Gerald Kicani and St. John's parish welcomed Governor Napolitano with open arms. Eager to show off their new program, called Casa San Juan.

Bishop Kicanis says, "We have a responsibility to attend to those who are most in need, and that's what casa san juan is trying to do."

The privately funded program answers questions about citizenship, how to access healthcare...but for many they just need help with basic human needs.

Director Aida Rios says, "They come in here, they can't afford to feed their kids pay rent cover their health with what they make."

Rios says many employers take advantage of illegal immigrants. She says "we're talking three dollars an hour, dishwashing, we're talking they work three months, and they don't even get paid they're fired, that's bad."

While some people think aiding illegal immigrants is wrong...what casa san juan is doing is not illegal. Because they don't provide shelter for illegal immigrants.

Governor Napolitano says she fully supports the program, even if it supports illegal immigrants. Napolitano says, "At this level it doesn't strike me as all that important, we have a border issues, but I think this is people. I think it indicates a committment to others that we need in Arizona."

[wjcsux]

My sister has volunteered as a poll watcher for years in Pima County. She told me that the 98, 00, 02 elections had numerous descrepancies in the voter rolls.

[marajade]

Okay... why hasn't she reported the ballot fraud?

[wjcsux]

I am a 3rd generation Arizonan. Tucson always has been the far-left bastion of the state. Support for illegal immigration in Tucson goes back a long time. St. Michaels Episcopal Church, located on 5th and Wilmot, has been notorious for this activity for years.

[marajade]

That doesn't answer my question about the allegations your sister has made...

[wjcsux]

Okay... why hasn't she reported the ballot fraud?
She has, several times. The Pima County Voter Regfistrar hasn't been exactly receptive.

[marajade]

How do you know they haven't investigated and found no fraud?

[wjcsux]

That doesn't answer my question about the allegations your sister has made...
I know, I was pointing out another matter.
I have worked the polls here in Bernalillo County (NM) as well. We have a worse problem with voter fraud than AZ does. The biggest problem with prosecuting this crime is that 1. you have to catch the person in the act and 2. you have to have public officials that are willing to do something about it.

[DLfromthedesert]

I register voters, and NOBODY has to show proof of citizenship to register; in fact, it's against the law to ask for ID.

Go figure.

[wjcsux]

I register voters, and NOBODY has to show proof of citizenship to register; in fact, it's against the law to ask for ID.
Did the same here in NM. Don't have to ask for ID here, either.

[marajade]

Well a new bill just passed the state house and senate that voters now have to present ID to vote... unless Janet vetoes it...

[marajade]

I'm asked to show/present ID where I vote in Maricopa County... if its illegal why are they allowed to do it?

[DLfromthedesert]

I'm talking about registering to vote in the first place ... no proof of citizenship required. Can't even ask. The Justice Department decreeth it so.

[marajade]

Did you read my post about a new state law? They will be asked...

[DLfromthedesert]

Like you said, if Butch doesn't veto it, which "she" has threatened to do; I'll have to wait to see how this plays out befoore I'm convinced there won't be fraud.

I hope you're right.

[marajade]

when did she threaten to veto it? I haven't heard she was... the reason why I don't she will is because there is federal money tied to in relation to election reform...