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To: Kevin Curry
Luis Gonzales wrote to Cultural Jihad:
"Supposedly the Founding Fathers who oversaw the institution of our self-governance, which included laws against homosexual sodomy..."

To which he replied:
Where are these laws in the Constitution?

These Founders also owned slaves, and Ben Franklin was quite the fornicator and adulterer.

You replied:
Was Ben Frankin a sodomizer like yourself?

Mr. Curry, this just a bit out of bounds, don't you think? Franklin's eccentricities are well known. Do you have to be so rude to Luis?

357 posted on 05/12/2003 9:49:13 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Liberal Classic
This is Luis's schtick, not mine. Luis said quite plainly on these boards yesterday that if I denied having ever engaged in sodomy, I was a liar. It was an amusing accusation that said much about him and nothing about me.

Ben Franklin's alleged sexual pecadilloes are not well known, at least not by me. I don't care to know if he had them. And if he did have them, he apparently had the good sense not to politicize and grandstand them, and make them the basis of some specious and laughable "unalienable rights" claim.

The challenge to Luis remains: whatever salacious crap he may have gleaned about Franklin from a Larry Flynt publication, is he asserting that Franklin engaged in sodomy?

It should be easy to find out if you have a nose for that kind of sewage.

362 posted on 05/12/2003 9:58:42 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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