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Dead female soldier fought "with all her might". (My Title)
Arizona Republic ^ | 5/1/03 | Billy House

Posted on 05/11/2003 12:18:04 AM PDT by L.A.Justice

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It's an article on how brave PFC Piestewa was... Reminds me of the film "Courage Under Fire"...Meg Ryan played an officer during the 1st Gulf War.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: army; gutsandglory; loripiestewa
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1 posted on 05/11/2003 12:18:05 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: L.A.Justice
It's an article on how brave PFC Piestewa was...

Sounds like nobody flinched...excellent conduct for a real echelon unit that
found themselves in a "Damnation Alley" situation.
2 posted on 05/11/2003 12:37:45 AM PDT by VOA
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To: L.A.Justice
Re #1

So it is not Jessica Lynch but this Hopi woman who fought Iraqis ? It will take a while for facts to finally emerge after confusion and political spins from different camps. It may take months.

3 posted on 05/11/2003 12:44:38 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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So it is not Jessica Lynch but this Hopi woman who fought Iraqis ?

The article says they all did.

4 posted on 05/11/2003 12:49:57 AM PDT by #3Fan
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No, it said that the Hopi woman and her mastersargeant did the bulk of fighting to allow others to move into safety.

5 posted on 05/11/2003 12:58:23 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
No, it says they all did.
6 posted on 05/11/2003 12:59:34 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: L.A.Justice
Here in Phoenix, our Hillary - Clone gubner
renamed Squaw Peak , a southwest landmark,
Piestewa Peak. The manner our gub-blubber
used was strong armed, exploited the war ,
and of course, illegal.....
...now here is the biscuit.......I like the renamed
Peak after PFC Piestewa and not Squaw, as a matter
of taste.

one of those John Wayne in perfume moments huh...lol
7 posted on 05/11/2003 1:01:14 AM PDT by cars for sale
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I read it the way you did (although this story changes every week, so I'm taking that into consideration too):

According to Renzi, the truck Piestewa was driving carried not just Lynch but also the senior-most non-commissioned officer of the convoy, a master sergeant, and others. When Iraqi soldiers began attacking, Renzi said, "It's her and the master sergeant having to fight and defend, in order for their comrades and brothers and sisters in arms to get out of the vehicle.

8 posted on 05/11/2003 1:03:58 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
From the article:

According to Renzi, the truck Piestewa was driving carried not just Lynch but also the senior-most non-commissioned officer of the convoy, a master sergeant, and others. When Iraqi soldiers began attacking, Renzi said, "It's her and the master sergeant having to fight and defend, in order for their comrades and brothers and sisters in arms to get out of the vehicle. "She fought back with her weapon, and she was involved in one of the fiercest portions of the fight. She did not flee, nor do I know that there is any evidence of cowardice of any of the people in the ranks."

Piestewa and the seargent covered while the rest got out of the vehicle. The rest certainly couldn't fight from inside the vehicle. Then the article says there was no cowardice from any in the ranks. That means they all fought after exiting the vehicle. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

9 posted on 05/11/2003 1:04:08 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I read it the way you did (although this story changes every week, so I'm taking that into consideration too):

Of course you did. You never miss an opportunity to dump on Jessica, even on unrelated threads.

10 posted on 05/11/2003 1:05:21 AM PDT by #3Fan
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Funny how you forgot to include that the seargent said there was no cowardice from the ranks. Gee, I wonder how you could overlook that.
11 posted on 05/11/2003 1:06:23 AM PDT by #3Fan
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Taking head-on enemy fires while helping others get out of vehicle counts more, in my opinion. They always say everybody fought. Theoretically, it is true. But some fights more than others, due to circumstance or ability.

12 posted on 05/11/2003 1:07:26 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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I commented on exactly what the article said.

You can try to pick a fight with me, but I'm not biting.
13 posted on 05/11/2003 1:09:21 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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Taking head-on enemy fires while helping others get out of vehicle counts more, in my opinion. They always say everybody fought. Theoretically, it is true. But some fights more than others, due to circumstance or ability.

No, you said the you agree with Tiger that the rest fled to safety. The Seargent says they all showed no cowardice. Tiger is saying the rest fled while Piestewa was killed. He's wrong and you're wrong for agreeing with him.

14 posted on 05/11/2003 1:12:53 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I commented on exactly what the article said. You can try to pick a fight with me, but I'm not biting.

You only bite when you have three or four other disruptors to help you.

15 posted on 05/11/2003 1:13:52 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I got you and her mixed up.

Taking head-on enemy fires while helping others get out of vehicle counts more, in my opinion. They always say everybody fought. Theoretically, it is true. But some fights more than others, due to circumstance or ability.

I'm sure that the most fire to one spot occured while everyone was together in the truck. I would guess that Piestewa and the seargent was in the front of the truck and therefore were in a position to provide cover while the rest could get out to fight. That doesn't mean the rest didn't fight as your first post indicates.

16 posted on 05/11/2003 1:17:24 AM PDT by #3Fan
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I read the article, and commented on it. I think you're wrong, and that your interpretation of the words "no cowardice" is linked to some irrational need to make Pfc. Lynch look like John Basilone. No one was cowardly - but that is far different than saying they all did the same thing.

Now, if you want to fight, you're going to have to find someone else to do it with.

I'm going to sleep. You bore me.

17 posted on 05/11/2003 1:18:17 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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You only bite when you have three or four other disruptors to help you.

Stop baiting me, and do not post to me again.

18 posted on 05/11/2003 1:19:00 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I'm happy, yet I'm aware of the ironic ramifications of my happiness.)
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RE #14

Is there another Tiger besides me ?:) I am not two individuals all at once.

Those others should flee first to regroup even for counterattack. The two people at the front did covering for them. They could be the ones who took most dangerous fires. Somehow the article did not mention that Lynch did the covering, too. It is possible that she was seriously wounded.

So nobody might have abandoned the battlefield. So nobody might have been a coward. But as I said, this article suggests that the two did more fighting than others.

My operating hyopthesis at this time is that the Hopi woman's story and Jessia's are merged into one story somehow.

19 posted on 05/11/2003 1:22:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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I don't know how it all went down but some good soldiers died and a young woman is trying learn how to brush her teeth in a military hospital.I am grateful for saved lives and humbled by the service of those who died.God bless our armed forces.
20 posted on 05/11/2003 1:24:30 AM PDT by MEG33
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