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Russia funding resurgent Taliban
The Scotsman ^ | Sun 11 May 2003 | Ian Mather

Posted on 05/10/2003 6:57:56 PM PDT by IoCaster

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To: Cindy
Thank you so very much for all the links!
21 posted on 05/10/2003 9:42:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BenR2
M. Dadullah Oblongata is the brains behind the operation.
22 posted on 05/10/2003 9:47:08 PM PDT by Consort
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To: blam
They sure haven't been very nice now have they, we have paid triple the value of that land and many of our own gave their life to keep that backslider out of trouble.
23 posted on 05/10/2003 9:47:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Consort
M. Dadullah Oblongata is the brains behind the operation.

Yes, and corp. C allosumh is in charge of communications.
24 posted on 05/10/2003 10:15:31 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: rvoitier
Very high. Russia thinks that we will be as dependent upon their oil as we have been upon that of the Saudis and that they, therefore, can play the same double game. Once again we see the folly of failing to rationally seek hydrocarbon independence and ultimately practical freedom from hydrocarbon dependence even domestically.
25 posted on 05/10/2003 11:04:57 PM PDT by AmericanVictory
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To: AmericanVictory
I thought that way when Pooty-Poot visited Crawford, Tx. (last year?). But not what Iraq's oil will be up and running in about a year, the US's dependence on OPEC oil will be greatly diminished. Granted, Iraq is in OPEC, they will be a breaker to their monopolistic price fixes.
The US's #1 importer for oil is Canada. The Russians have screwed their themselves out of contention for the US's business in the near future with what we're now learning vis-a-vis their Sadaam ties.
When the time comes, America will handle its energy needs without having to bow to environmentalists' screw job of wreckikng our economy with unfair and imbalanced demands on the US and no one else.
26 posted on 05/11/2003 12:07:12 AM PDT by rvoitier (There's too many ALs in this world: Al Qaeda Al Jezeera Al Gore Al Sharpton Al Franken)
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To: IoCaster; Cindy; *all; backhoe; HAL9000; Alamo-Girl; piasa; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...
For more than seventy years definitively-hesperophobic,"Russia" will never forgive Our Beloved FRaternal Republic for seeing to Moscow's Evil Empire's humiliation in Afghanistan. And for having so comprehensively compounded that already-abject humiliation.

In Afghanistan.

[Long before we took Iraq in 44 days -- and began allowing the evidence of Russia's long-established complicity there with Saddam's murderers to Chinese-water-torture-like leak out and to even further compound Russia's humiliation. (Aside) PUTIN! Pay attention! Do you get it yet? Be with US -- or BE the enemy]

Least we forget, originally-tiny "Russia" is still close to being the world's most authoritarian colonial empire.

[On Russia's scale -- of both recent brutality and size -- only its ideological twin, the authoritarian colonial empire brutally and murderously under the boot of the Peking-based pack of psychopathological, invading, conquering, enslaving, mass-murdering, lying, looting, thieving, wannabe-mandarin, gangster bastards that so grandiosely calls itself "china," outstrips it] And "Russia" is still pretty much comprised of the same medievally-minded, [Politically] endemically-alcoholic and otherwise drug-resistant-diseased, mindlessly-criminalized and almost to an man as-mindlessly hesperophobic people as were the Soviet's Evil Empire's slaves -- who are run by the same every-bit-as hesperophobic gangsters-posing-as-politicians, including, so far, the drunkard, Yeltsin.

And the KGB's Putin.

There is great hope that a newly "New" European-ized Russia will shed its brutally aquired and brutally held on to colonial Asian empire and reemerge to stand beside its willing American ally and to retake its place in Chrissendom -- and it has shown movement in that direction.

But it's not there yet.

Not by decades.
27 posted on 05/11/2003 12:09:25 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: IoCaster
If this is true, it proves the Russians just never ever learn.
28 posted on 05/11/2003 12:11:41 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
If this is true, it proves the Russians just never ever learn.+++

But if it is not what it proves? I'd say that some freepers never learn likably eating up any stupidity they feed.
29 posted on 05/11/2003 3:06:15 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
If this is true, it proves the Russians just never ever learn.

I doubt that it is true. Taliban was the most enthusiastic supporter of militant Islamists in Chechnya while Russia was the supporter of Northern Alliance - the mortal foe of Taliban.

30 posted on 05/11/2003 5:49:13 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: AmericanVictory
"Russia thinks that we will be as dependent upon their oil"

Wonder where they got that idea?

Remember BJClinton telling the world there should be a "set" price for a barrel of oil. I think he said at least "25" dollars, well he wasn't just talking about American oil he was talking about Russian oil, (Iraq and Saudi) control of the world's oil.

Finding out now that the UN was ripping off the Iraqi oil under that "Oil for Food Program which Clinton himself wanted to continue cannot be left out of the story.

While much evidence is obvious to the acts of Russia, France, Germany and China, lets not forget our very own socialist/liberal/communist who we elected for two terms who was a fellow traveler with this bunch.

One could only imagine what things would be like today under an algore presidency and the former co-partner president running the Senate.

Bill and Hillary want their power back and will do whatever they can get away with to get it back, they don't give one wit about this nation's status or security, it is their "STAGE".

"Hydrocarbon independence" is but one part of the picture, a tool like high taxation to control the economy, under a political leadership like the UN, using institutions of education and religion to bring humanity into agreement of a so-called "world peace".


31 posted on 05/11/2003 7:00:06 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Brian Allen
HELP - please explain this word "hesperophobic".

Well one could use Korea and Vietnam as prior abject humiliation done by the "Evil Empire" to US, and Ronald Reagan knew the evil of communistic ideology, and thus the abject humiliation served up in Afghanistan could be said, reaping what one has sown.

However, few Americans are aware of it being the "Evil Empire" who directed and paid for that bit of abject humiliation (Korea and Vietnam and China's willing help) upon US.

What confidence (secret deals) our own loathing of our military, two term socialist gave to these "authoritarian colonial empires", they had a done deal and President Bush made them null and void.

If there is a connection of Russia and the Taliban and we find Saddam was a part of that same connection what did Russia know about 9/11? Someone we were told prior to 9/11 was making money in the market selling stocks/ hedging/selling short airline stocks, WHO WAS THAT?
32 posted on 05/11/2003 7:17:22 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: IoCaster
If true, where do I send my check to the Chechens?
33 posted on 05/11/2003 7:26:02 AM PDT by Beck_isright (FOR SALE: Hardly used French weaponry. Contact Baghdad Bob's Clearance Warehouse.)
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To: Brian Allen
Thank you so much for sharing that analysis! Hugs!
34 posted on 05/11/2003 8:12:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 11B3
Given our track record I am suprised that some Talibani are not working for us! We funded the jihads not Russia and in addition the Russians and the Northern Front are tight - the Northern Alliance has been with Russia since the Russian forces left Afghanistan - and fought the war with proxies.

The Northern Alliance has also been supported by India, China and Iran (Iran because some in the Northern alliance are Shia and etnic Iranian) and thus this charge by the Talibani Mullah is laughable. Even more laughable you can buy into it.

35 posted on 05/11/2003 8:13:48 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Beck_isright
If true, where do I send my check to the Chechens?

I guess the nearest office of Taliban can handle it for you.

36 posted on 05/11/2003 8:24:19 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
LOL, good point. The Russians are screwing themselves if this story is true!
37 posted on 05/11/2003 8:45:51 AM PDT by Beck_isright (FOR SALE: Hardly used French weaponry. Contact Baghdad Bob's Clearance Warehouse.)
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To: RusIvan
Yes, I agree. Until a report is confirmed by credible sources and evidence, it should not be taken as the truth.

Nice to hear from you, RI.

38 posted on 05/11/2003 11:28:18 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Just mythoughts
Hesperophobia:

This word was coined by the political scientist Robert Conquest. Its roots are the Greek words ????????, [Hesperos] which means ?the west? and ????? (phobos), which means ?fear,? but which when used as an English suffix can also carry the meaning ?hate?.

Hesperophobia is fear or hatred of the West.

Check John Derbyshire's book review at:
http://olimu.com/WebJournalism/Texts/Commentary/Hesperophobia.htm

I lifted John's definition from their -- and can vouch for the truth of what he writes.

I live it every day.

Best ones -- B A
39 posted on 05/11/2003 3:09:14 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brian Allen
Thanks for the explanation, makes sense never heard it used in this manner describing Russia. Not doubting the word or orgin just trying to understand the word in the context used.
40 posted on 05/11/2003 3:19:37 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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