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To: traditionalist; justshutupandtakeit; x; William McKinley; PatrickHenry; betty boop
traditionalist, you asked justsh' who listed some of the Founding Fathers: "I am not aware of any document or speach or anything in which any of men you mention praised Locke's philosophy. Do you have an example?

From what I've see, I doubt that Hamilton was much of a Locke fan; I don't know about Madison.  But J. Adams and Jefferson credited him well.  Also, David Barton has recently asserted that the most often referenced sources for their political philosophy by the founding fathers were Locke and the Bible.

Here is documentation that should help to accurately place Locke among the influential minds upon which our American political philosophy is based:

John Adams, Thoughts on Government (search for "Locke"):
http://www.liberty1.org/thoughts.htm

Thomas Jefferson:
http://www.hsc.edu/academics/classics/jefferson_quote.html
http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/ot2www-jeffquot?specfile=/web/data/jefferson/quotations/www/jeffquot.o2w&act=surround&offset=1730&tag=Preface&query=Locke

Also, treatments of Locke's influence, especially in the context of Natural Rights (theorized from both the Bible and classic philosophy):
http://www.heritage.org/Research/PoliticalPhilosophy/HL184.cfm
http://www.libertyhaven.com/theoreticalorphilosophicalissues/libertarianism/tensionsearly.shtml
http://www.libertyhaven.com/theoreticalorphilosophicalissues/philosophy/reasoning.shtml
http://www.libertyhaven.com/theoreticalorphilosophicalissues/history/enlightenment.html

And an interesting comparison of Sidney and Locke:
http://www.libertyhaven.com/thinkers/algemonsidney/algernon.shtml

And... here are comparisons of Locke with Leibniz:
http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/vattel/id7.html
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/leiblock.htm

I'm pinging some others who know and/or may be interested.
16 posted on 05/10/2003 3:49:10 PM PDT by unspun
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To: unspun
Adams also included quite an analysis of Locke and his influence on the Constitution in one of the chapters of A Defence of the Constitution of Government of the United States of America.
19 posted on 05/10/2003 4:13:34 PM PDT by William McKinley (Our disagreements are politics. Our agreements are principles.)
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To: unspun
Thanks for the reference. I was aware that Jefferson was a Locke fan, but he was a radical Jacobin sypathizer, and hence hardly a conservative, though mellowed later in his career.

I was a little surprised to see that Adams favorably referenced him. Adams was was a cool head and after the war of independence even had some monarchist leanings, but I suppose earlier in his career he may have had some radical tendencies, of which he thankfully disposed before becoming president.

29 posted on 05/10/2003 5:33:50 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: unspun
Thanks for the research.

Hamilton's early writings referenced and showed an understanding of Locke.

I wouldn't say his influence was overwhelming but it was certainly there when he wrote Congress Vindicated and A Westchester Farmer Refuted.
37 posted on 05/12/2003 9:08:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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