[Willie Green]

When the taxpayers have to fork over $15 per passenger mile,

As long as your gonna fabricate phoney numbers, why not call it $1500 per passenger mile (or $15,000) to really show your bias against mass transit? Heck, anybody can afford $15. You gotta think BIG!!!

[supercat]

As long as your gonna fabricate phoney numbers, why not call it $1500 per passenger mile (or $15,000) to really show your bias against mass transit? Heck, anybody can afford $15. You gotta think BIG!!!

There are some transit systems whose subsidization approaches or perhaps exceeds $15/passenger mile. Most, however, are nowhere near that bad.

Interestingly, the London Underground is a consolidation of transit systems that were built by for-profit companies. Yerkes' company digging the deep tunnel lines (central parts of Picadilly, Bakerloo, and IIRC part of Northern) went broke, and was intended to be subsidized by the surface rail (which makes sense, since an underground connection increases the value of the surface-rail line) but nonetheless was privately financed by people who wanted to make money.

Compare that to the public-money boondoggles of today.

[jimt]

As long as your gonna fabricate phoney numbers, why not call it $1500 per passenger mile (or $15,000) to really show your bias against mass transit?

Willie, it's $15 plus in Dallas.

Speaking of phoney numbers, I notice you didn't post a rebuttal showing a rail system that wasn't subsidized, now did you?

The phoney numbers are all on the transit advocates' side. And the taxpayers are getting hosed.

[Tailback]

How many dedicated gas tax dollars has Oregon collected? By law gas tax money in Oregon is required to be spent on highways, yet in the last 30 years almost no increased lane capacity has been created in Oregon. You sir can spin your stupid choo-choo agenda any way you want to but people who have to LIVE in the Willamette valley know what the real deal is. How do you feel to be in such well esteemed company as Vera Katz and Eric Stenn?