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To: andak01
Let me ask you this honestly, do YOU believe that Islam is going to conquer the world?

No, I don't believe Islam will conquer the world. But conquering the world is the stated goal of Islam's many radicals, and they will have to die (literally or figuratively) to prevent the damage that will come from them trying to have Islam dominate the world.

Because you seem to think that I am lying, but you are eager to believe what a few Muslim protesters say. What if I said that Jesus was going to conquer the world? Would you have a problem with that? Should I?

I haven't seen any of your posts before this one to me, so I am not saying one way or the other whether you are lying or not. I am unfamiliar with what you have said in any regard. I'll go back thru this thread and catch up on that.

In general, I would be against anyone, or any one ideology "conquering the world" ... If people choose to adopt a certain ideology, that is their choice. But the words of the radicals belie any choice -- "Dominate" and "conquer" do not imply that people have any choice in the matter other than to submit or fight.

With regard to the hypothetical of Jesus (Christainity) conquering the world, and if I would feel any better about that, my answer is that the hypothetical is not a valid comparison. Wherever Christainity goes, people bring food and clothing for the poor, and they preach a message of hope and tolerance and love, and most importantly, they leave the choice to believe or not up to the individual. Wherever Islam goes, people are bombed, enslaved, tortured, constrained, and dominated. Every single place on this planet that has Muslims has the terror that comes with them. That is a fact that the headlines make clear each and every day.

I notice these days that it is non-believers more than Muslims that are hanging on the words of the most radical elements. They discount any moderate and sensible proposal in favor of the minority jihad position.

It is the actions of the radical elements that are changing the world for us "non-believers". 9/11 was the product of radical elements, and it is something that I, as a "non-believer" of Islam have to look at as a product of Islam in general. It is not possible to seperate the radicals from the so-called "moderate" muslims because I know that the talks in the mosques, and the fundraising in the mosques and the general apparent apathy of 'moderates' to the radical elements, are the very things that have allowed the radicals to thrive, and ultimately to attack us. The goals are clearly stated ... "Islam will conquer the World". If the "moderates" have other ideas, then they had better start dealing with the radicals, rather than funding them, paying lip service to them, and encouraging them either through their silence and/or tacit approval of the more radical sermons and elements.

Until such a time comes, I will be prepared to defend myself and my community against any further influence by any Muslims, period.

113 posted on 08/15/2003 2:25:57 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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