The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam - The Sword of the Prophet: Islam

Regina Orthodox Press ^ | 2002 | Serge Trifkovic

[katana]

I was once asked by a muslim acquaintance (in Saudi Arabia) how I could have possible read the Quran and not converted to Islam. I gave the fellow a song and dance answer about being a part of the "Peoples of the Book" (Ahl-ul-Kitaab) and therefore (under his own set of rules) did not require conversion.

But a more truthful reply would have been to tell him that I found the Quran to be unreadable and contradictory nonsense. I didn't tell him this because I didn't want my throat cut, but he eventually got around to confirming my point by saying that, yes being a Christian was ok since "according to the Quran" when Judgenment Day arrives Christ will lead the muslims and the Christians as they slaughter all the Jews.

Sorry, I've seen this religion close up and first hand and have no doubt about its fundamental nature, in or out of "context".

[abu afak]

Islamic NATIONS Slaughter, Enslave Christians (post #1)

December 16, 2001
by Tom Barrett Editor@ConservativeTruth.org

THERE IS NOT ONE CHRISTIAN NATION ON EARTH WHERE MUSLIMS ARE PERSECUTED. Yet in 83% of nations where the majority of the population are Muslims, there is systematic government persecution of Christians. (See "Religious Freedom in the Majority Islamic Countries" in the Resources section below.) This persecution includes imposing the death penalty for sharing the Christian faith with a Muslim; national laws prohibiting conversion from Islam to Christianity; destruction of churches; and murder or expulsion of Christian missionaries. Even in the few predominantly Muslim countries where the government does not openly participate in the persecution, it ignores and even encourages illegal persecution by Muslims against Christians.

I spent hours going through the well-documented profiles of the forty-six countries listed in the report mentioned above. Of these, six did not have significant Muslim populations. Of the thirty-nine with a strong Muslim majority, only seven could be considered to be either neutral or tolerant toward their Christian minorities. If the United States were to treat its roughly two million Muslims with one-tenth of the violence and humiliation that these Islamic nations heap on their Christians, the worldwide outcry would be immediate, and justified. Why, then, does the "Community of Nations," including the United States, turn a deaf ear to the cries of the persecuted Christians in Muslim nations?

The laws of most of these Islamic nations give lip service to religious freedom. Nothing could be further from the truth. In most of the countries I researched, the death penalty was common for converting from Islam to Christianity (or any other religion). Christians receive no protection from these governments when they are persecuted; indeed, most often the governments themselves are the persecutors. Children of Christians are stolen from their parents so that they can be raised as Muslims. Speaking about Christianity to a Muslim can result in beatings, long prison sentences and even death.

The most urgent situation demanding our attention today is in Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population of any non-Arab country. There Islamic fundamentalists have promised a bloodbath of Christians before Christmas. This is no idle threat; in 1996 Islamic fundamentalists slaughtered 3,000 Christians in East Timor. More recently, a group called Laskar Jihad, which hails Osama bin Laden as its hero, slaughtered thousands of Christians with the help of government troops. (See "Christians Terrorized in Muslim Indonesia" in the Resources section.) An Indonesian military officer is quoted as saying that the government has the power to stop the Jihad, but government officials "all the way to the top" profit from it. Their goal is nothing less than to exterminate every Christian in Indonesia or force them to leave. According to Steven Snyder, the president of International Christian Concern who visited Indonesia in November, about 15,000 Laskar Jihad troops equipped with AK-47 assault rifles, rocket launchers and bulldozers are threatening to kill 50,000 Christians and destroy their homes and churches in the next week.

In Sudan, Christians are sold into slavery or murdered for no other crime than naming the Name of Christ. Over two million have been murdered, and 200,000 have been sold into slavery by their government. An organization named Christian Solidarity International (PLEASE visit C.S.I.’s website listed in Resources Section) has raised money to buy almost 60,000 slaves from their captors and free them. One 22-year-old Protestant girl, a virgin, was captured by government soldiers and raped repeatedly for five days as she was marched through the jungle tied to twenty other slaves. Many women and children died during this march. She was then used as a slave and forced to study Islam until bought out of slavery by C.S.I. You can read her complete story and those of other slaves at http://www.csi-int.ch/csi-trp/csi-trp_0003a.htm (scroll down to section IV, item B).

What about our "allies"? You can dress a monster up in a pinstriped suit, teach him to speak formally and use the right fork at state dinners, and put him in a group of diplomats for for a photo opportunity, but that doesn’t make him civilized. Our "friends" in the international community, including Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, and our most recent buddy, Pakistan, are all guilty of atrocities against Christians based on nothing other than their profession of faith. Let me emphasize that we are not talking about a radical minority of citizens acting on their own. We are talking about systematic state persecution, state murder and state crimes against humanity, all legal according to the various constitutions and laws of these vicious nations.

Let’s start with our "friend and ally," Saudi Arabia. Their "Constitution" is the Koran. This nation, whose population is 98% Muslim, finances Islamic terrorist groups in moderate Islamic nations which force conversion to Islam under the threat of death. In Saudi Arabia, rape is punishable by death- unless it is a Muslim man violating a Christian woman. The Saudis are so rich from their oil that most refuse to do common labor, so they import six million foreign workers. Of these, ten percent are Christians. They are not allowed to wear a cross in public and or to celebrate Christmas, but are forced to observe Ramadan. Christians, even tourists, have been arrested by the Religious Police for participating in prayer meetings in private homes. Any who speak of their faith publicly are tortured in an attempt to convert them to Islam. Those who refuse are executed. Punishment for distributing Bibles can range from lashes with a whip or amputation of a limb, to beheading.

Turkey, our "military ally", is 99.8% Muslim. Recently, eight Americans were arrested in Turkey for the "crime" of giving away copies of the New Testament. In 1974 Turkey overran Cyprus - which is 80% Christian...""


http://www.conservativetruth.org/archives/tombarrett/12-16-01.shtml

[abu afak]

Andak is a Failed Apologist for Islam.

He just quit the Israel Forum after 1200 posts and becoming a infamours for his method... which is...

1. It Didn't happen
2. If it duid it has nothing to do with Islam
3. If it did you (Christians did it too)
(even if not since the Crusades/inquisition)

He has now movedr here and on the Charlie Rose Forum, searching for more impressionable posters.
I see he's had no luck here.

Congrats

[tictoc]

Good point by point analysis of andak's method, thank you.

[abu afak]

You were trested quite well there.

Much better than an American Christian or Jewish Israeli would be treated in ummah.com.

I didn't say you lefy in disgrace but you and your Apologist Techniique had become a Mockery and a Joke.

ie this poster who saw it immediately.. as did many others
Those "Three truths' I Gave were about YOU

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=3463

[abu afak]

Sorry Buddy, I'm not going to waste any more time on this board with you.

They are already hip to you here--

This is not a board of Lovey-dovey Liberals who'll buy you're "Islam is just like everyone else"

They already know better here... tho I may drop in every few days.

BEWARE ANDAK--

THE MOST DANGEROUS MUSLIM (Beside the Osamas) is one who TRIES TO TELL YOU THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM-- OR THERE'S JUST 20 BAD GUYS!

The truth is Islamic Radicals have broad support in the Muslim world at large.

[abu afak]

I see you're posting "European Hours"

about 5AM -5PM-- Or should I say North African Hours?

Visiting the Inlaws in Morocco?

Ruining tour vacation for your obsession?

Does the fact that you've Married a Muslim and are in Islam up to your ass the reason you defend it so strongly?

If you face the truth you have to throw away 15 years of your life.. and your wife.. or her beliefs and your life.

Tough situation-- and why you defend so desparately, if absurdly.

But at least we know where you are coming from. Mullah

Why don't you tell the board what the penalty for apostasy is in Islam?

You're bagged

[TheOldSchool]

I saw a "side by side" comparison of the Surahs in the Koran and the Laws contained in the Code of Hammurabi some time back. Can anyone provide me a link to that posting? I seem to remember it was about 6 months ago. Keyword searches have produced no results. Any help will be appreciated.

[abu afak]

Sirens Over Africa
Where there are stonings, there is jihad.

By Paul Marshall


On August 27, Amina Lawal, a 32-year-old Nigerian single mother, sat in an Islamic sharia court in Katsina state in northern Nigeria and nursed her two-year-old daughter, Wasila. Wasila had been born over nine months after Amina was divorced and, in Nigeria's Islamic courts, this is taken to be prima facie evidence that Amina committed adultery.

If her appeal of this conviction is denied, she will be buried up to her chest, and the surrounding throng will throw stones at her until she is dead. The stones used must not be so small that they will inflict no damage, nor so large that they will kill her too quickly. She must die slowly and painfully in front of the crowd.

Of course, in any adultery case, there must also be a man involved, and Amina testified that she had not willingly committed adultery but had been raped. However, to convict a man of rape, Nigeria's sharia courts usually require that there be four male Muslim witnesses. Though the courts are not yet clear on this, it may be (following precedent in other Islamist jurisdictions such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, and Pakistan) that up to eight male non-Muslim witnesses, or 16 female non-Muslim witnesses, would also suffice for the conviction of a male Muslim. However, since Nigerian adulterers and rapists — like those in other parts of the world — do not usually perform in front of crowds, the man has been acquitted, and Amina and her daughter stand alone.

She is one of five women who have been so charged, though none has yet been executed. Thanks to the international attention their cases attracted, other luckless women have had their sentences deferred, or dismissed on technical grounds. In Amina's case, the appeals court has deferred judgment until September 25.

Yet, terrible as is Amina's plight, her situation is but a symptom of a larger problem afflicting Nigeria and other African nations. Nigeria — along with Kenya, Tanzania, and South Africa — is subject to major campaigns by radical Islamists to spread their ideology. The country is, as was repeatedly emphasized by Osama bin Laden, an explicit target for Islamic extremists, often funded by the Saudis. When extreme sharia was introduced in Nigeria in 1999, Saudi, Pakistani, and Palestinian representatives gathered to express their support.

When radical Islam gains a foothold, stonings, amputations, and religious executions follow. But the effects are even wider than these barbarities. In such regimes, questioning the government is effectively equated with questioning God. Since extremists maintain that their laws and rulers are authorized directly by God without any human mediation, any political opposition is, by definition, blasphemy, and thus punishable by death.

Thus the victory of radical Islam, even when it is won peacefully, necessarily leads to the defeat of democracy, of any republican virtues, and of any human rights....""


http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-marshall082803.asp

[Monty22]

"Would you say that Christianity is a religion that forbids divorce or contraception? "

I'd rather these things be up for interpretation than the stuff that leads to 9/11 and jihad crap.