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To: Destro
Interested in reading a spoiler? If not then scroll past it.

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Apparently, at the end of Matrix Revolutions, they meet the Architect, the creator of the Matrix. He tells them that their rebellion is just a dream. That this is in fact the 6th Matrix, Neo is the 6th Messiah, and this is the 6th time that Zion has revolted. The Oracle also turns out to be a part of the Matrix, not a human at all. So from the sounds of it, it appears that even Zion is part of the Matrix, and that all those powers which Neo thinks he has in the Matrix are actually given to him BY the Matrix for its own benefit.

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62 posted on 05/09/2003 1:11:30 AM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in '08.)
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To: Green Knight; B-Chan
Yeah, that's what I read. LOL
67 posted on 05/09/2003 3:59:17 AM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: Green Knight
thanks for the spoiler! great fun.

If I may speculate: its important that this episode is number two of the trilogy. It sounds to me like elementary school buddism; reincarnation and all that. Like a retelling of Sidhartha the hero must keep re-doing life until he comes to realize the ultimate futility of it.

Perhaps the final installment will end w/ Neo gazing out onto the Blvd.(river) from the front window of his favorite noodle shop. He will realize that all that has transpired has taken place in the proverbial twinkling of an eye. If he looks closely out into the street he can see himself, dark glasses, long trench coat, moving stealthily to some grim confrontation w/ Agent Smith.

Just as the profundities in the Old Testament was told in language that a shepard could understand, the "Matrix" is revealed to neo in a language, digitalese, that he can understand--and more importantly, believe.

The story remains the same.

72 posted on 05/09/2003 5:24:32 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Green Knight
{{{Hands over my eyes.......hitting the SCROLL DOWN button with my big toe}}}...........

LALALALALALALALALALALALA.......I won' read THIS!

108 posted on 05/09/2003 6:56:35 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (...............ooooo-shu-be-do-wop.................)
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To: Green Knight
ARgh! I had to read the spoiler and now I am utterly bored before watching the movie...

Really, it is a cheap commercial plot of double personality and what not, kind of like the Fight Club.

The average Christian realizes that life around here is just a trial and an illusion of reality. The real life begins after being saved.

That said the plot resembles a story by Goethe about this man who tries to know the truth and finds out that he cannot pass the first door to truth because it is heavily guarded, only to perceive that hundreds of doors further exist and are even more heavily guarded. After failing to pass the first door and despairing, before dying of old age, the guard at the first door tells him to be happy because no one has gotten that far before him.

I would call hence the movie less gnostic and more philosophical depressive type. Schiller is a must and Goethe must be dropped.

Powers of deception seem indeed ultimate in making people believe they must prosecute themselves instead of the fairer alternative of demanding a mediator for the sinners. I think the matrix can be beaten easily in the end because the evil that denies the existence of a mediator is traping itself while freeing the persecuted to do whatever it can do.

If Neo were the One, He would be the announciator and the mediator. In this instance he only appears to not even go beyond asking for a mediator... he surely has a lot of ways to travel still before being truly the One , IMO.
138 posted on 05/10/2003 10:07:03 AM PDT by JudgemAll
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