It will never work.
Were in the desert will you house the millions of detained illegal aliens?
How will you collect the fines?
How much taxpayer money will be sunk into this pit? It is not cheap to feed several million people 3 meals a day.
If Jose Doe cannot send money back to the family in Mexico, AND loses what he made working illegally in the U.S. due to forfeiture, he'll chose to try his luck on the Mexican economy before blowing through the U.S. judicial system again.
No he won’t. He’ll just keep trying until he gets through. You have not taken away what he is trying to obtain. It’s been proven time and time again.
At the same time, I think we need to maintain a healthy work-visa system,
We have one, but most US employers would rather save money by hiring illegal aliens.
Were < sic> in the desert will you house the millions of detained illegal aliens? We have lots of land. The Federal government took over millions of acres in the 90's with the great Western land grab (i.e. when they outlawed public use of most of the BLM land for things like OHV use and mining.)
How will you collect the fines?
Use the IRS. They seem to find me every year. The Federal Government has lots of experience tracking down assets and confiscating them from it's citizens. Why should it be any more difficult for foreign nationals? They have checking accounts. Their kids go to our public schools. They use our public services. They own houses, cars, and property, and used all of the above.
How much taxpayer money will be sunk into this pit? It is not cheap to feed several million people 3 meals a day.
That statement is made with a false vis-a-vis premise, presupposing the status quo is cost-free. I'll be the last one to claim that illegal immigrants make no contribution to our economy. Some pay taxes (e.g. unavoidable taxes such as sales tax, gas tax, etc.). Since much of their activity is of necessity, invisable to our government, and secondly, because most are in the lower income levels, illegal foreign nationals pay much less in tax revenue than they consume as a group in services. Of course, this differs by nationality, culture, the U.S. region they are located in, etc.. But there is DEFINITELY a high cost being paid, especially by border states such as Texas and California.
Second, security is not cheap. Ask my buddies in Iraq. This is a national security issue.
Third, your argument (regardless of your political orientation) is the claim liberal clap-trap that leftist pols have been feeding us for years regarding crime and punishment in general. First, make the prisons so ungodly inefficient that it costs $100K per year to house an inmate. Then claim the cost is not worth the benefit to society. Guess what, when they actually DO lock 'em up, as they did in the 1990's, we found out that it actually DOES pay to stop crime by locking up criminals. Recidivism dropped like a stone, because the guys stopped going through the turnstyles.
Fourth, we are feeding millions around the world already. What's your problem with SECURING THE BOARDERS? The "meals for millions" argument is a "red herring". What's your agenda?
No he won’t. He’ll just keep trying until he gets through. You have not taken away what he is trying to obtain. It’s been proven time and time again.
That sounds like an argument that one of my college professors once said, ".. if they use the word 'obviously', you know it's definitely no such thing". Proven??! Where and how? Definitely, illegal immigrants come to the USA for more than economic opportunity, e.g. political freedom. But this is arguably NOT the case with many Latin Americans coming across our Southern border. "Mom and the kids" stay behind in the village, and for many of these folks, coming home on holidays and off-work periods is a lifetime routine.
When the cost of illegal immigration exceeds the perceived benefit, illegal immigration will drop like a stone. The USA is serving as a political "pressure relief valve" for both Mexican and our socialist friends in Canada. If our borders weren't so porous, many of these folks would be running a (political) revolution at home.
However, America's a cheap dumping ground for the worlds "best and brightest" (and those most aggressive at seeking either opportunity or a free ride; we get both kinds). As long as this country exists for the world's oppressed, the worlds oppressed will give the oppressors a "free ride", by taking the boat to the states.
We have one, but most US employers would rather save money by hiring illegal aliens.
Um..geez, there are several things one could say here. First, if the illegal aliens are either at home or in a tent prison city, there will be fewer to hire. Second, there is a good case to be made that the supply of LEGAL immigrants (e.g. H1B High Tech workers) have long since outstripped the domestic demand, such that we're now killing off an entire American workforce segment. No, we don't have an effective immigration system. It's arbitrary, biased, tilted towards certain industries (benefiting both Democrat and GOP politian-whor*s alike), and serve both deserving foreign nationals, and American citizens poorly.
FReegards, SFS