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President Bush's Boy Feels the Sting of His Boss' Mistake
KeepAndBearArms.com ^ | May 8, 2003 | Sam Cohen

Posted on 05/08/2003 7:53:15 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

The New Hampshire State Republican Committee is sponsoring a series of in-state visits from party bigwigs. Last night, Karl Rove, advisor to the President, and a friend of George W. Bush for 30 years, spoke at a lecture hall at Southern New Hampshire University, in Manchester. The hall was full, with several hundred people there, including a state senator, a recent Congressional candidate, and a number of other people I knew. (New Hampshire's a small state.) I sat in the front row, and after Rove's speech, was the last of a half-dozen people to be recognized for questions.

I introduced myself as a director of Gun Owners of New Hampshire, the NRA state affiliate, noting -- for the benefit of the audience -- that even Bill Clinton admitted that the country's 83 million gun owners, and the NRA, delivered the electoral votes of Arkansas, Tennessee, and West Virginia in the 2000 election. I then told of assistant White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan's statement a couple of weeks ago that President Bush had joined Democrat senators Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer in calling for renewal of the so-called Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, due to sunset after ten years in 2004.

My question was whether President Bush was aware that many thousands of gun-rights activists around the country felt so strongly about this that we had drawn a line in the sand (my exact words), and would not support ANY politician -- even President Bush himself -- who supported this atrocious legislation.

Rove began his answer by referring to the tremendous amount of email that the White House had received on this subject, but then he shot back the question of whether we supported Bush in the 2000 elections.

I said "absolutely." His follow-up was that Bush had publicly campaigned on his position of "enforcing existing gun laws," and his position hasn't changed; he was just being consistent. Rove then closed the session and walked off the stage.

Just a few minutes later, I approached him to continue in private as he was leaving the building; I was the last to do so before he got into his car. This is where it got interesting: Rove took my arm and literally got in my face, using the old drill sergeant intimidation trick of speaking through clenched teeth with his nose an inch from mine. It didn't work, because I'm taller (and older, and uglier) than he is, and I took HIS arm in turn. He told me that Bush was sticking to his position, but that Congress would never pass the legislation. I told him that there were a lot of us, that we were dead serious, and that if Bush let the ban get renewed he'd lose the election, because freedom is more important than politics. He looked at me -- still with clenched teeth -- turned, and walked to his car, obviously angry.

GOOD! First, his anger told me that he knew that the hypocritical strategy was dangerous. More importantly, it tells me he'll remember the exchange.

Molon Labe!

Sam Cohen http://www.thespiritof76.com/rkba.html

* RKBA! (...the exclamation point means "shall not be infringed!")


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: banglist; bushhate
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To: UnBlinkingEye
Support Bush if you love globalism, defeat him if you don't.

Paleo pap.

There is no "globalism." There is only Americanism: threaten us and you will be destroyed!

Bush has done more to defeat globalism than any president in my lifetime.

21 posted on 05/08/2003 8:24:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: cynicom
But wait, if we do not vote for Bush those bad old democrats will be in power

Depends which election you're talking about.

I can't think of a firmer message to Mr. Rove-Bush than to vote for a local, conservative, Republican opponent in the early Republican primaries.

By about the third or fourth primary these two conservative pretenders will get the message loud and clear.

22 posted on 05/08/2003 8:25:08 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: green team 1999
They have learned to how to play games, and its sick. They are doing what alot of senators do, and Clinton used to do. Go in public, support something, then kill it behind the scenes. Liberals used to fight like hell to get gun laws with criminal penalties passed, then fought like hell to keep them from being enforced behind the scenes (Janet Reno actually had the nerve to imply that those who want to enforce them, might be racist), then claim, that more are needed.
23 posted on 05/08/2003 8:25:23 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant".)
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To: Beelzebubba
Amen brother.
24 posted on 05/08/2003 8:25:25 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: eddie willers
LOL, you beat me to it. I was going to ask if he supported Hillary or Kerry.
25 posted on 05/08/2003 8:25:26 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: cynicom
Watch the pub whiners come on here, wring their hands, and pull that old nonsense about the lesser of two evils. I do not know why the pubs come here.

So vote for Tubby Howard Phillips, cync. Or Harry Browne. Or any of those clowns who look and talk like they belong in a police lineup.

I thought I was negative, but I honestly don't know why you continue to draw breath if things suck as much as you seem to think.

26 posted on 05/08/2003 8:27:17 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: McGavin999
Amen.
Protecting the 2nd will be the courts job.
Who do we want to do the nominating?
27 posted on 05/08/2003 8:28:11 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Amerigomag
I can't think of a firmer message to Mr. Rove-Bush than to vote for a local, conservative, Republican opponent in the early Republican primaries.

What Republican would take on Bush in a primary?

There's not going to be any primaries. Anywhere.

28 posted on 05/08/2003 8:29:35 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Amerigomag
This forum is advertised as a "CONSERVATIVE" forum, not a republican cheerleading section. The partisan pubs want conservative votes but we are to say nothing and ask for nothing. Just vote for anyone they put up front.

Really peculiar that they come on here, insult people then turtn around and ask for our votes.

29 posted on 05/08/2003 8:29:38 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: sinkspur
Sink if you ever had a good thought in your mind, it would surely choke you to type it out. You surely must be a very lonely person.
30 posted on 05/08/2003 8:30:57 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Really peculiar that they come on here, insult people then turtn around and ask for our votes.

If I insulted you every day from now until the 2004 election, you'd still come out ahead in the invective you've spewed.

Sink if you ever had a good thought in your mind, it would surely choke you to type it out. You surely must be a very lonely person.

Good thought? This from the most cynical, snearing blatherskite on Free Republic.

Not lonely at all. I love getting under your very thin skin.

31 posted on 05/08/2003 8:34:40 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
sink...You really get under very few peoples skin. Good time to tell you why. Many feel sorry for you, consider your personality, and disregard you.
32 posted on 05/08/2003 8:37:05 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Most folks around here don't agree with you that there is not a dime's worth of difference between the parties, including myself. To suggest that they are dumb and/or blind is hardly the most effective way to make your case, nor is fixating on one Bill or one issue. Your approach may attract some flames, but that is about it. It certainly won't precipitate substantive discussion. To each his own.
33 posted on 05/08/2003 8:37:40 PM PDT by Torie
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To: isthisnickcool
Phil Graham was Kay Graham's husband right? And her predecessor as publisher of the Washington Post? Phil Gramm, on the other hand....
34 posted on 05/08/2003 8:39:23 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Torie
Torie

Conservative forum says it all.

35 posted on 05/08/2003 8:40:06 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Many feel sorry for you, consider your personality, and disregard you.

I think you're projecting.

36 posted on 05/08/2003 8:40:48 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Sink..Time for my meds and a good nites sleep. You have a good nite, tomorrow is another day.
37 posted on 05/08/2003 8:42:00 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
This forum is advertised as a "CONSERVATIVE" forum, not a republican cheerleading section. The partisan pubs want conservative votes but we are to say nothing and ask for nothing. Just vote for anyone they put up front.

Do you have a better idea? Or is yours "we must destroy the village to save it." If so get your Kerry or Edwards bumper sticker ready!

38 posted on 05/08/2003 8:43:16 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Belgium is France's mimi-me)
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To: cynicom
Repeal NAFTA and GATT. Now are you satisfied?
39 posted on 05/08/2003 8:43:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JeepInMazar
"bang"

Bang? bang good? bang bad?

My question was half-serious about the audits, this stuff happened to practically anyone who embarrassed the clintons.
40 posted on 05/08/2003 8:44:42 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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