[TBP]

Hillary cannot get elected President of the United States. Even in liberal New York, I doubt that she can get re-elected Senator.

In a three way race, even in New York, conservatives stand a good chance of winning, as Buckley did in 1970.

And the only good thing about the Patriot Act is that it has a sunset provision. Even if Hitlery manages to get elected, there is a decent chance she won't be able to use it.

What good does stopping the Democrats do when Republicans give us a massive education bill, Federally-funded prescription drugs for seniors, and other liberal policies, then add to it by giving us things like the Patriot Act? We need a real opposition to this, not two parties with similar agendas, one of which pretends to be conservative.

[WoofDog123]

"We need a real opposition to this, not two parties with similar agendas, one of which pretends to be conservative."

When 50% of the country voted for Gore, how can the conservative vote be divided without handing the election over? A conservative party running in 3-way presidential race won't take votes from the DNC, just like I doubt Nader took votes from the GOP (maybe a very few in both cases, but statistically negligible).

I think the only viable way to move the center of the political debate is through the media. Fox has probably done more to stop the spread of socialism/totalitarianism in the US than any other public entity, by simply providing an alternate (either conservative or more objective) view on modern politics and news.

[WoofDog123]

"And the only good thing about the Patriot Act is that it has a sunset provision. Even if Hitlery manages to get elected, there is a decent chance she won't be able to use it. "

I think that there would be an incident agrecious enough in the time frame it needed to be renewed to push it through, if it was something she wanted to keep in place.