[WoofDog123]

"Besides, if Republicans lose because of conservatives, eventually even The Stupid Party has to get the message that they should stop trying to get elected by going left."

Is getting that message across worth, say, 8 years of Hillary? Can you imagine what she would do with 8 years, a nice patriot act in place, and all kinds of wrongs to right?

I believe that in a country where something like half the voters don't pay ANY taxes, and new voters are being produced by our public indoctrination camps called 'skools,' getting real fiscal (or social) conservatives elected is simply impossible.

[Howlin]

"Besides, if Republicans lose because of conservatives, eventually even The Stupid Party has to get the message that they should stop trying to get elected by going left."

Ah, yes. The old "let's teach them a lesson and then they'll coming running to us" plan.