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To: longshadow; Doctor Stochastic; null and void; js1138; PatrickHenry; donh; balrog666; Junior
...you cannot simulate reality...computer programs cannot approximate reality...

What's really fascinating - and I admit that this is much more interesting to me, in the bloody-wreck-on-the-side-of-the-road sense, than ignorance about how exponents work or failures to understand middle-school plane geometry - is that this sort of denial really amounts to nothing less than a denial of at least the last 600 years or so of Western rationalism. A denial of a rationalism which has always been predicated on the assumption that the universe was a rational place, put together by a rational God, and that therefore you could rationally understand the world around you by modeling some aspect of it, even if the models were imperfect and incomplete representations of reality. The difference between Leonardo's models and computer simulations of everything from evolution to spaceflight to oil exploration is merely a difference of degree, not a difference of kind - the only difference is in the sophistication of the models. One wonders if denying evolution is really worth the price, if that price is simultaneously denying one of the core concepts of Western scientific and philosophical thought. I'm almost afraid to ask what sort of mysticism is proposed as an alternative...

And there was infused in that brain such grace from God, and a power of expression in such sublime accord with the intellect and memory that served it, and he knew so well how to express his conceptions by draughtmanship, that he vanquished with his discourse, and confuted with his reasoning, every valiant wit. And he was continually making models and designs to show men how to remove mountains with ease, and how to bore them in order to pass from one level to another; and by means of levers, windlasses, and screws, he showed the way to raise and draw great weights, together with methods for emptying harbours, and pumps for removing water from low places, things which his brain never ceased from devising.

- Giorgio Vasari, Life of Leonardo da Vinci (1550)


1,891 posted on 05/24/2003 5:11:07 AM PDT by general_re (When you step on the brakes, you're putting your life in your foot's hands...)
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To: general_re
I'm almost afraid to ask what sort of mysticism is proposed as an alternative ...

No need to wonder. If that alternative should come to pass, you and I will be among the first to be slaughtered. Or maybe we'll go in the second or third wave of purification, because there are far more prominent thinkers out there than you and I. It will then be the victorious creationists who will have to live, somehow, in the hell-on-earth that will inevitably result from their ceaseless war on reason.

[To anyone who's wondering ... yeah, I'm talking about you.]

1,894 posted on 05/24/2003 7:09:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: general_re
As I said, his willfull ignorance is utterly breathtaking.
1,904 posted on 05/24/2003 9:10:22 AM PDT by null and void
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