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To: AndrewC
These are not references. These are "More to Explore".

From the same authors... I don't think it's the same amazing circuit talked about here on FR, but nonetheless working circuits resulting from a genetic algorithms. Evolution using genetic programming of a low-distortion, 96 decibel operational amplifier

You said that they had nothing, you basically said that GAs were all untrue. Those results are not nothing. I've not done any actual research with GAs, but I can tell you that they're pretty amazing in their capabilities... when you want to know about NNs and PR stuff, gimme a call.

Since I know that you'll (1) want the original 9-transistor circuit next, (2) after that, you'll want a genetic algorithm besting Xeons, I'll end my discussion here. It's fairly easy to do an university-library search on the authors' names (which is what I did on one author's name), track down their university websites and e-mail them, et cetera if you want to.
1,030 posted on 05/09/2003 11:55:24 PM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: AndrewC
Point being, evolutionary processes applied to computer science can and do create all sort of improvements and such by random processes... which was the original point you were trying to defeat in the first place.

However, I'll grant you this. It's impossible to properly re-create biological evolution in its entirity. However, certain details can be disproven/proven with the help of GAs... such as structures that supposedly have irreducible complexity.

And in certain ways, creating models help us to understand biological processes better. Orientation maps, for example, are neurons within V1 that have specific orientations. We can calculate orientation maps with good accuracy in monkeys, ferrets, etc., now--but they could not do so in the 70s. A computer program modelling the orientation map exhibited certain features of orientation maps that had not even been discovered yet!
1,031 posted on 05/10/2003 12:03:02 AM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: Nakatu X
These are not references.

As I said, they were not references to the topic, however, they refer to something, therefore, they are references.

I already know the 9 transistor circuit design. It is not a 9 transistor circuit as designed. It was a 5 transistor, 4 diode circuit in the patent. I read the patent.

1,057 posted on 05/10/2003 9:19:28 AM PDT by AndrewC
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