Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve

NSF ^ | May 8, 2003 | Staff

[js1138]

Theism, by necessity, whatever the type requires a belief in absolute truths such as murder is wrong.

Ah, but is all killing murder? If not, exactly how and where do you draw the line?

There is in fact no difference at all between moral absolutism and moral relativism. Both have to come to grips with the fact that there are actions, consequenses and motives. The differences are found in whose ox is being gored.

[Aric2000]

He keeps telling me all this stuff, and he ASSUMES that they had children.

The bible indeed says they had more children, but it was obvious he was clueless as to where.

When I know more about the bible then a christian does, I think that there is a problem.

But I really was having a good time, darnit Lurking, just ruin my fun!! ;)

[AmericanAge]

"Hey, dumbass, koalas didn't go extinct 11,500 years ago and Australia wasn't flooded. You got another guess coming (hopefully from a non-Middle Eastern perspective)."

First off, I don't appreciate name-calling, but you're operating on the evolutionist assumption that they started in Australia to begin with.

And to preempt your next question, there are a dozen ways they could have gotten there.

[CobaltBlue]

But the mold isn't exposed to the mutated bacteria, is it? They aren't wild type bacteria, they exist in humans. They aren't adapted well enough to live in the wild.

I suppose if you put penicillin and mutated bacteria in the same environment, you might be able to grow penicillin that adapted to the mutated bacteria, but evolution isn't predictable, and it usually isn't quick.

[RightWingNilla]

My pitching is the problem this year.

[Lurking Libertarian]

The bible indeed says they had more children, but it was obvious he was clueless as to where.

Something's wrong when a couple of "evil-lutionists" know the Bible better than a real bible-thumpin' creationist.

[Aric2000]

Give me a link to that information, because wherever you got it from is wishful thinking.

The number of Christians is closer to 1 billion.

Hindus, are around 1.5 Billion.

Sorry, but I believe your info is wrong.

[AmericanAge]

If they could do that, then the drug manufacturerers would simply store it where it was exposed to the "mutated bacteria", and it would adapt itself. So, why don't they?

[CobaltBlue]

I meant to say penicillium, which is the proper name of the mold. Penicillin is a metabolite of Penicillium notatum.

[Aric2000]

Now that was a low blow, VERY FUNNY, but a low blow all the same....

[AmericanAge]

Laf, do a google search for:

Christianity Hinduism Islam believers billion million

You'll get hundreds of relevant hits, from sources of all types - take your pick of what you consider the most reliable. :)

[CobaltBlue]

>>why don't they?<<

Are you sure that they don't try this? Maybe they're trying but it hasn't worked so far.

If not, patent your idea, it's a good one.

[djf]

I said not a single thing about koalas or Australia. I said the story of Noah is repeated worldwide by many cultures, not just Christians. And the timeframe does seem to intersect a timeframe when we know certain species became extinct. Don't get yur panties in a wad.

[AmericanAge]

"Are you sure that they don't try this? Maybe they're trying but it hasn't worked so far.

If not, patent your idea, it's a good one."

Penicillin has been around for plenty of time. There's no way that our huge drug industry, with all of their evolution-taught minds, developing millions of drugs, didn't think of it. There's a reason they didn't do it:

Because It Doesn't Work.

And it doesn't work because evolution does not take place.

[Grando Calrissian]

Same here. I chose the Twins over the Dodgers.

[AmericanAge]

Do you want to get into a discussion about the "scientific" methods of dating fossils and minerals? They're horribly inaccurate; it's one of science's dirty little secrets.

[Grando Calrissian]

Call 'em as I see 'em, but you're right.

[Aric2000]

Actually, they believe that there was indeed a great flood, but it really only effected the middle east and meditaranean, which of course was the whole world at that time.

But, there are MANY Great flood stories, the American Indians have them, almost every culture has them.

Wonderful myth, the flood story, there is some history in there to be found, it is just a matter of pulling the facts out of the fantasy.

Of course, you need to look at the story for their morality content as well, because they each have a very good message to send. If you listen for the message and take the story for what it is. in other words, NOT literally.

[balrog666]

I said not a single thing about koalas or Australia. I said the story of Noah is repeated worldwide by many cultures, not just Christians. And the timeframe does seem to intersect a timeframe when we know certain species became extinct. Don't get yur panties in a wad.

It's repeated by cultures that originated in the Middle East corresponding to about the time of the last glacial period ending - the melting of the glaciers and the rise of sea levels. you know, ice dams bursting and all that. BFD.

And certain New World species became expinct because *MAN* (and a few other predators) reached the Americas via land bridges in the same time frame. We have bones with teeth marks on them - they didn't die because any BS flood.

[djf]

One thing they know is that at the end of the last ice age, sea levels worldwide rose over 300 feet. And that fits in well with the timeframe here. Funny. Everything I've posted has had a large element of supporting Christian theology. And guess who slams me...
Go figure, I guess.