Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve

NSF ^ | May 8, 2003 | Staff

[js1138]

Liar. The Scientific American link was post #504. Sorr it wasn't directed specifically at you, but it was widely discussed.

You can't read the article on the web unless you are a SciAm subscriber, and if you are, you would have seen it in the print version.

[donh]

I hope your son is not suffering from polio or any other diseases.

No. I keep dredging it up for an example because I had a friend when I was young who was slowly eaten up by polio. One wierd disease.

[null and void]

Oh, and then there's insanity. Isn't it a Good Thing that machines don't suffer from depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, or psychosis?

They do tend to be obsessive-compulsive...

[js1138]

Oh, and then there's insanity. Isn't it a Good Thing that machines don't suffer from depression, schizophrenia, paranoia, or psychosis?

If we get something approaching artificial intelligence, they will.

[null and void]

Kewl! The neighbors would be green with envy...

[null and void]

What about the Hulk???

Incredible!

[CobaltBlue]

Did we not establish days ago that the patent in question was pending?

Are you not aware that pending patent applications cannot be searched, only granted patents?

Didn't several people suggest that you e-mail the researchers and ask them directly?

[null and void]

Do you mean spectral green or perceived green? ;^)

Forest green.

[AndrewC]

Liar. The Scientific American link was post #504.

Liar yourself, as you said "You can't read the article on the web unless you are a SciAm subscriber". I am not a subscriber. I stopped reading it regularly when it became a thin propaganda tool and not an unbiased source of scientific information.

I tracked down a source for the full article and posted the link in 1014. It still has no evidence for the claim made concerning the cubic function generator.

[donh]

If there is a God then we did not evolve.

I'd like to see your proof of this.

[donh]

Experience hath shown that all cats are either alive or not alive (dead).

Are green cats dead or alive?

[donh]

I am not a literalist in relation to portions of the Holy Bible.

Which portions? Are you a literalist respecting all other portions of the bible which you are not a literalist about?

[AndrewC]

Did we not establish days ago that the patent in question was pending?

No "WE" didn't. The claim was made that numerous patents for evolved inventions were granted. I pointed out that in the article one of the participants claimed that "If (as we expect) the patent is granted, we believe that it will be the first one granted for an invention created by genetic programming.". Clearly, that prohibits even one patent existing for a invention created by genetic programming.

Are you not aware that pending patent applications cannot be searched, only granted patents?

Gee, didn't you get the impression that I am capable of looking for things and can read and do read instructions?

This home page "http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html" has a boxed area containing a green area and a yellow area. The green area has this title ---> Issued Patents (full-text since 1976, full-page images since 1790)

And the yellow area has this title ---> Patent Applications (published since 15 March 2001)

I guess that means that patent applications can be searched.

[AndrewC]

Are you a literalist respecting all other portions of the bible which you are not a literalist about?

Is this is serious question?

[AndrewC]

is = a

[RightWingNilla]

I'm not familiar with the book

Ahh. You would probably get a kick out of it. He predicts that Moore's law will allow us to have computers which can perfectly model the human brain neuron by neuron within fifty years. Kurtzweil claims, people will be able to scan their brains and establish in-silico versions of themselves...essentially immortality! I was wondering what someone familiar with AI would have to say about all this.

Interestingly, he speculates, that sole reason for humans on the planet is to create machines faster/smarter etc.

Here is the amazon link.

[f.Christian]

color blind people don't see color ...

the dead know nothing !

[f.Christian]

The definition I work by ...

in a positive science you don't interject your value system (( atheism // ego )) or your bias (( moods )) ---

those change (( evolution )) all the time --- not science !

[Michael121]

Prove there is not. Prove that we did.

[Dimensio]

Prove there is not. Prove that we did.

Prove there is not what? You claimed that if there is a God then we did not evolve. That's a rather strong assertion, but you've yet to provide any evidence that the existence of a God and human evolution are mutually exclusive concepts. "Prove there is not. Prove that we did." is not a convicing or even a very intelligent response to the challenge that you support your assertion.