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Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve
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| May 8, 2003
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Posted on 05/08/2003 10:11:06 AM PDT by Nebullis
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To: AndrewC
Here's another question - if you believe that God is all powerful, and if you believe that God is constantly involved in our existence, why do you believe that God can't, won't, hasn't created new life forms on Earth over eons? New life forms which are not dissimilar from old life forms but are more adapted to the changing environment?
To: Ten Megaton Solution
Evolution can be disproven for there is no "missing link" we have the layers of what was, what is, but we do not have the in-between. They say T-rex "became" a meat eating bird. Where are the other stages of its evolving?
We now have Cro-magnon and modern man living at the same time. Science is still trying to explain this one. In France modern man was found existing in the lowlands and Cro-man in the highlands. When scientists are asked they say they are working it out.
But they have said so far that at the moment it seems that modern man just "appeared" out of nowhere.
As to evolution, I have seen no proof that something evolved. I do however see evidence of things created. Disprove to me the missing "Creator"
You are the one saying the opponents provide the Evidence to prove evolution FALSE. Then you being an "OPPONENT" of a creator have on your shoulders the weight to "DISPROVE" the existance of GOD. So I await your proof. I can use your own argument against you. And science also has never disproven GOD. So I await there case also.
To: Michael121
"Evolution can be disproven for there is no "missing link" we have the layers of what was, what is, but we do not have the in-between. They say T-rex "became" a meat eating bird. Where are the other stages of its evolving?"
No, they say that T-rex was killed off by a meteor.
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posted on
05/10/2003 7:00:42 AM PDT
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Sofa King
(-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
To: donh
Don't give Him ideas. A 10 Km rock sufficed for the dinosaurs...
1,044
posted on
05/10/2003 7:04:39 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Besides, we are quite capable of doing ourselves in, thank you...)
To: Michael121
Evolution can be disproven for there is no "missing link" we have the layers of what was, what is, but we do not have the in-between. They say T-rex "became" a meat eating bird. Where are the other stages of its evolving? There are loads of transitionals. Check this out for a sampler, and discover how your teachers have failed you: Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ.
We now have Cro-magnon and modern man living at the same time. Science is still trying to explain this one. In France modern man was found existing in the lowlands and Cro-man in the highlands. When scientists are asked they say they are working it out.
I think you mean Neanderthal. Cro-magnon is pretty much us. Not a significant lapse in reasoning on your part, but it does indicate a lack of familiarity with the subject matter.
But they have said so far that at the moment it seems that modern man just "appeared" out of nowhere.
No, that's your position.
As to evolution, I have seen no proof that something evolved.
You won't find proof. But you will find loads of evidence. What does the fossil record mean to you?
I do however see evidence of things created.
Wow. Stuff just pops into existence, like from a Star Trek transporter? Really?
Disprove to me the missing "Creator"
I have no interest in that one.
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05/10/2003 7:06:05 AM PDT
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PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
To: gore3000
Matter cannot reason and not even the most ardent materialists argue that living things can will themselves into a new species so this argument is absolute nonsense. A lot of people investing in biotech will be disapointed...
To: Ten Megaton Solution
Re: found that weekly synagogue- or churchgoers experienced a 28% lower mortality rate than those attending less regularlyI'm guessing the real mortality rate is the same as for the general population. One fatality per customer...
To: yall
Just out of curiosity, why are there NO green mammals???
To: null and void
Just out of curiosity, why are there NO green mammals??? And where's the blue food?
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05/10/2003 7:39:51 AM PDT
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balrog666
(When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
To: null and void
Tree sloths can be greenish - they tend to have mold growing in their fur. Colobus monkeys can be a sort of olive green - naturally so, unlike sloths. And then there's
this... ;)
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posted on
05/10/2003 7:57:51 AM PDT
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general_re
(Ask me about my vow of silence!)
To: balrog666
Vermont.
1,051
posted on
05/10/2003 8:01:32 AM PDT
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general_re
(Ask me about my vow of silence!)
To: general_re
Mold doesn't count. Think blueberries.
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posted on
05/10/2003 8:34:53 AM PDT
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PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
To: PatrickHenry
Why not? What are you, the Blueberry Board rep? It's blue, it's a food...it's a blue food. Sheesh.
:^)
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posted on
05/10/2003 8:37:29 AM PDT
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general_re
(Ask me about my vow of silence!)
To: Vinnie
That answers the question of 'where did life begin' San Francisco
It's so limiting having just two genders. You don't have enough adults around for bridge, you don't have a voting quorum, you don't have sufficient witnesses as to what was said in the heat of the moment, and you only have boring old binary homo- and hetero- sexual lovemaking. Plus courtship can't consume all your waking hours just for the scheduling alone, leaving people to wonder the street looking for amusement to fill their idle moments and generally getting into trouble. You know who I blame for this mess? Conservatives.
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posted on
05/10/2003 8:40:48 AM PDT
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donh
To: null and void
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05/10/2003 8:46:59 AM PDT
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donh
To: general_re
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posted on
05/10/2003 8:50:52 AM PDT
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PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
To: Nakatu X
These are not references.As I said, they were not references to the topic, however, they refer to something, therefore, they are references.
I already know the 9 transistor circuit design. It is not a 9 transistor circuit as designed. It was a 5 transistor, 4 diode circuit in the patent. I read the patent.
To: CobaltBlue
Do you find it useful to believe that God created life on earth that has never ever evolved and never will? This is not about me. I have to prove nor provide evidence for what I believe. I argue the points asserted by others. The assertion, at the moment is that a evolved piece of junk circuit performs better in an unspecified way than a patented circuit. I asked for evidence. That evidence has not been produced.
Look at the patented circuit. It has 5 transistors and 4 diodes. The circuit reproduced in the article has 9 transistors. It uses 4 transistors as diodes thus it models the original circuit but it is not the original circuit. Why do you suppose they did not use diodes in the evolution?
To: CobaltBlue
Here's another question - if you believe that God is all powerful, and if you believe that God is constantly involved in our existence, why do you believe that God can't, won't, hasn't created new life forms on Earth over eons?Why the inordinate fascination with my beliefs? The argument concerns what is demonstrated. I still see nothing but an assertion about a kludge circuit. The kludge circuit most certainly outperforms the patent circuit in entropy production but I have no evidence that it better performs the cubic function over the frequency range specified in the patent.
Further, the patented circuit makes reference to another patented circuit(6,002,291) involving 9 transistors and a resistor which "combines the outputs from three differential pairs of transistors to generate an output current that varies in a cubic-type manner in response to the input voltage. "
To: AndrewC
OK, I don't really hang out much on these Creation/Evolution threads but I think I am beginning to understand. Creation types never actually talk about what they believe, personally, they just try to shoot holes in what evolutionists say.
Nothing substantive, just constant nibbling.
I assume that you've never really taken the trouble to learn about the fossil record because you think it's irrelevant, but you're too proud to admit it.
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