[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your post, unspun!

Well, it's nice to have sense and even a sense of place, but what about the place, itself? Do you think the physical world is, in some very real sense, consecrated... holy? (As well as the spiritual world being corrupted, just like the natural?)

I see all of the physical realm - along with the spiritual realm and the Word - as God’s revealing Himself. To me it is a tapestry of light, color, sound, form, movement, emotion which illustrates both what God is and what He is not - His will.

So to me it is all inviolable - both that which is good and that which is evil – because both are in the tapestry and serve to reveal God’s will. That is why I do not wish to bring an accusation against any being, great or small (Jude.)

By assurance especially from the book of Revelation, I trust God in the end of this phase of His revealing Himself - to separate the wheat from the chaff so that when we enter His new heaven and earth we will have understanding and no chaff will ever again be needed.

[unspun]

Thank you, A-G. I agree, depending on the meaning of the word "need." We remember, all relation to us by God has been propositional... by covenant. And sin has never been God's plan, eh? He has made provision, though.